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Christians Killed, Churches Burned
Crosswalk.com News Channel ^ | 10/5/01 | Crosswalk.com

Posted on 10/09/2001 6:37:31 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

Muslim religious leaders in Pakistan are reported to have issued a fatwa, stating that two Pakistani Christians will be killed for every Muslim who dies during American strikes on Afghanistan. Earlier a former member of Pakistan's legislative assembly, and a nationally known figure connected to Islamic extremist movements, Maulana Sami ul-Haq, told journalists that the Qur'an (Koran) states that Jews and Christians are the enemies of Muslims, and (therefore) by inference should be killed.

Meanwhile, persecution of local Christians continues. Beatings of Christians by Muslim mobs, and the burning and vandalizing of churches and a Christian school are reported. One time when a minister tried to stop a gang of Muslims from burning his church, he was viciously beaten. In Rawalpindi five Christian families were dragged from their homes and savagely beaten during anti-American protests.

In Pakistan, Indonesia, Nigeria and across the Islamic world, many Christians are terrified. They are living in fear and intimidation, facing the prospect of widespread massive and violent reprisals from angry Muslims if America and its allies attack Afghanistan, according to The Barnabas Fund UK. "They cannot understand why these (church and political leaders in the West) have not spoken up on their behalf, or come to their defense," according to The Barnabas Fund organization. Its international director remarked, "The situation is extremely serious and demands urgent attention. Never in living memory has the situation for Christian minorities in the Islamic world been so precarious."


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1 posted on 10/09/2001 6:37:31 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
FREEPER WARNING: Crosswalk.Com is a known source of disinformation. Read and ponder at your own risk.
2 posted on 10/09/2001 6:39:16 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: anniegetyourgun
"They cannot understand why these (church and political leaders in the West) have not spoken up on their behalf, or come to their defense,"...

Probably because this is pretty much "hearsay," and the stuff of fund-raising letters asking you to send money to mail-drops and blind postoffice boxes.

3 posted on 10/09/2001 6:40:41 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
I knew it was a Christian site, but didn't know about any disinformation. Can you give an example of this? Thanks.
4 posted on 10/09/2001 6:42:39 AM PDT by Silly
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To: Illbay
You may be right - after all, everyone knows that Christians are not persecuted in such nations as Pakistan, Nigeria, and Indonesia.
5 posted on 10/09/2001 6:45:15 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Muslim religious leaders in Pakistan are reported to have issued a fatwa, stating that two Pakistani Christians

As if they haven't *been* doing that...

6 posted on 10/09/2001 6:45:35 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: anniegetyourgun
"They cannot understand why these (church and political leaders in the West) have not spoken up on their behalf, or come to their defense,"

Now, this I *don't* get. Christians, expecting the world to come to their defense?? Someone hasn't been teaching them very well.

As Christians, we are told to expect this kind of behavior, but to fear not.

I am aware that it's easy for me to say, living here... I am aware of that. But it doesn't make it less true. I'm sure I will be afraid too if/when it happens close to me. But surprised? Confused? Never.

7 posted on 10/09/2001 6:48:24 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: anniegetyourgun
Don't forget the Philippines. This may or may not be disinformation but there are other sources, some posted here recently, to confirm some of these atrocities. I've learned a number of things about Islam in the past several weeks and I don't like any of them.
8 posted on 10/09/2001 6:49:09 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Silly
Read the article. It gives no particulars, no names of witnesses, it just assumes you'll swallow whatever they say.

I know that some of these things HAVE been happening, because I see credible news reports from credible news sources. But to tell the truth they are not widespread like the article wants you to think. Why do YOU think that no one else has been talking about it? It's easy to say "ANTI-CHRISTIAN BIAS!" but then you sound just like the radical Muslims.

This is called "propaganda" and it is there for the purpose of bolstering an agenda.

9 posted on 10/09/2001 6:49:58 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: johniegrad
This may or may not be disinformation but there are other sources, some posted here recently, to confirm some of these atrocities.

It's true, some of these things have been happening. But in the Phillipines as in other places where Muslims are a minority, the goal of the radical Islamists isn't simply to "persecute Christians" but to establish an independent Muslim state.

I think you have to UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON. It's too simplistic to say "they're persecuting Christians." And in the case of the Phillipines, it's inaccurate.

10 posted on 10/09/2001 6:52:16 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: anniegetyourgun
The Muslims have been carrying out attrocities against the Catholics in the Sudan for a number of years. It hardly got a yawn here in the USA.

Probably would have been a top priority if they had oil.

11 posted on 10/09/2001 6:52:39 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Illbay
FREEPER WARNING: Crosswalk.Com is a known source of disinformation.

Why don't you try this one then: No Christmas bells

or House of Lords Monday, 18th December 2000.

12 posted on 10/09/2001 6:53:32 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Illbay
Oh, I'm sorry. Now I realize that all they want is an independent state. Forget everything I said. That justifies all of it.
13 posted on 10/09/2001 6:53:48 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Illbay
" FREEPER WARNING: Illbay is a known source of disinformation. Read and ponder at your own risk. "
14 posted on 10/09/2001 6:57:32 AM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Cap'n Crunch
heres a website for anyone interested.

www.petersvoice.com/index.htm

This is the homepage when the icons come up, click on the one that says "Bishop Macram Gasis."

There is a story there called "Sudan, cradle of terrorism," along with a plethora of other stories.

15 posted on 10/09/2001 6:59:15 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Illbay
Left Shoe News (HRAIC)

"HRAIC is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious organization committed to combating abuses in Muslim countries. "

16 posted on 10/09/2001 6:59:46 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Illbay
Please stop, you're wasting your time. For every two reported on, there are two thousand not reported on. As if us stupid Christians only depend on Crosswalk.com.
17 posted on 10/09/2001 7:01:01 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Silly
Gee, I wonder why articles like this don't provide names of the Christians involved, their churches, their pastors and leaders, addresses of where they meet, and the routes they typically travel?
18 posted on 10/09/2001 7:01:02 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Illbay
This isn't new. Muslims beat, torture and kill Christians all over the world EVERY DAY. There are two people imprisoned in Afghanistan for, PREACHING CHRISTIANITY! If we did that in the US, we'd have 8 million Muslims in prison. (Which is starting to sound like a good idea) This is one more example of the loving and tolerant religion of Islam.
19 posted on 10/09/2001 7:01:21 AM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Illbay
Why do YOU think that no one else has been talking about it?

A large part of the Christian community has been talking about it.

I know you're not implying that the media tells us everything that is going on. You're too sharp for that.

20 posted on 10/09/2001 7:02:18 AM PDT by Ward Smythe
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