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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
As others have pointed out, that silly tinfoil-hat "crime" list and that full-of-filthy-lies "film" put out by fat-fingered pharisee Falwell and other professional Clinton-haters amounts to doodley-squat. There's no 'there,' there.

Factually speaking, there is absolutely zero 'documentation' to back up ANY acusation in the "Clinton Chronicles." In fact, that hate-video is so full of nasty lies that if Falwell doesn't some day apologize for his part in producing it, he is very likely going to go to hell when his time comes. The Lord is VERY prejudiced against people who bear false witness against others. He even made a specific commandment against it. To God, lying about someone is the same as killing them. And Falwell's film (which he has dishonestly disavowed) is full of lies -- including some told by Falwell himself (such as when he pretends to be interviewing an "insider" whose life is being threatened. There was no insider. Falwell was interviewing the guy who made the stupid movie and letting on that it was someone whose identity he was protecting to save him from Clinton's mythical murder machine -- which of course is yet another another invention of that paranoid crowd of Clinton-haters.)

There is not a SINGLE accusation of malfeasance on Clinton's part in his entire public life that can be proved, although many people have spent many millions TRYING to prove same and failed. All the GOP ever got on him was lying about a few BJs, and they had to move heaven and earth to trap him into saying even that.

If Dubya and his daddy (who have both been accused of much bigger misdeeds than Clinton was ever accused of -- although the press refuses to tell you that) were investigated with one-twentieth of the ardor that Clinton was, it's likely they'd both wind up in jail.

The reason Clinton didn't go to jail is because he was investigated and found innocent. The reason the Bushes won't go to jail is because nobody (especially nobody in the CIA-controlled media) would dare to look into their affairs like Starr looked into Clinton's.

See what I just did? I did the same thing you guys do: I accused without proof, purely on the basis of dislike. But as I'm sure you realize now that the shoe is on your foot, although I can claim Bush is a philanderer and murderer all I want, that isn't factual "documentation" any more than phoney Falwell's flim-flam film is.

37 posted on 10/17/2001 9:46:30 AM PDT by Hidy
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To: Hidy
Factually speaking, there is absolutely zero 'documentation' to back up ANY acusation in the "Clinton Chronicles."

Uups. I messed up. Just found out there is no guy named Russell Welch. It was an actor on that video. /sarcasm.

What do you need? You need to have some bloody head roll up on your doorstep before something is real?

38 posted on 10/17/2001 9:51:45 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Hidy
I just want this cleared up. Would you object to a congressional hearing with Welch and the makers of this film?
39 posted on 10/17/2001 9:52:52 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Hidy
Oh btw... I checked Clinton's presidential web site and found out that Clinton said in one of his own speeches that 4 of the 5 slain ATF agents in Waco were former Clinton body guards. Clinton said HE thought it was odd. But you guys don't think it's odd. You disagree with Clinton? Oh but it isn't odd. Just another coincidence. Oh. And it wasn't a lie,was it?
41 posted on 10/17/2001 9:56:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Hidy
There is not a SINGLE accusation of malfeasance on Clinton's part in his entire public life that can be proved...

LOL, this reminds me of a statement clintoon once made concerning bribery. "No one can PROVE that i (clintoon) ever made any decision SOLELY on the basis of campaign contributions."

Its curious that you defend clintoon the same way the taliban defend bin laden.

46 posted on 10/17/2001 10:08:20 AM PDT by quimby
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To: Hidy
The reason Clinton didn't go to jail is because he was investigated and found innocent

Now, you have my interest. In what court was he found innocent and to what charge?

I seem to recall his being involved in one court action during which he committed a criminal act. This ultimately led to his being the first sitting president to be impeached. Hardly a judgement of innocence.

Now, go hump your BC blow-up doll; it'll be less stressful (just make sure it's wearing a condom!).

47 posted on 10/17/2001 10:12:16 AM PDT by RightRules
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To: Hildy
I accuse clinton of degrading the office of the Presidency. I accuse clinton of lying for SEVEN LONG MONTHS causing the Starr investigation spend OUR MONEY, when any DECENT president would have COOPERATED with the IC assigned by his OWN DOJ attorney general, and accuse him of getting others NOT TO COOPERATE (Monica, Linda etc etc) and I accuse him of trying to FOIL a UNITED STATES INVESTIGATION, of PERJURY before a court of law (when he TOOK an OATH of office on the BIBLE to defend our laws) and I accuse him of never coming forward and EXPLAINING why an EXTRAORDINARY NUMBER of his associates have committed quote 'suicide' (oh sure) when their deaths stood to BENEFIT that horrible pig of a man. I accuse bill clinton of treason (his deal to move vetting of extraordinary mirv technology - missile guidance system - from our Dept of Defense to the OH GAG ME ------->>>>COMMERCE DEPT, thereby granting China HUGE JUMPS in military prowess (and all for MONEY!) and I accuse him of trashing innocent human beings like billy dale to HELP HIMSELF and I accuse him of screwing our nation every chance he had, like NOT going after bin laden when he was found in November just before clinton left office, and lastly, I accuse him of being a freak with no conscience. His legacy is the TERRORISM we all now face.
49 posted on 10/17/2001 10:22:21 AM PDT by Republic
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To: Hidy
There is not a SINGLE accusation of malfeasance on Clinton's part in his entire public life that can be proved, although many people have spent many millions TRYING to prove same and failed.

If that's the case, Hidy, then why won't you debate the facts in the death of Ron Brown? I keep challenging you to do it and you NEVER EVER respond. What's the problem?

Are you afraid you can't spin the SWORN TESTIMONY of the pathologists and photographer at the examination of his body who say he had what appeared to be a bullet wound in the top of his head? Afraid you won't be able to come up with any credible witnesses to dismiss their accusation (because I know you won't be able too)?

Afraid you won't be able to explain the x-ray and photo of Brown's head which appears to cooberate that hypothesis? Afraid you can't tell us what happened to the original copies of the x-ray and photos (from a locked safe at AFIP)?

Afraid you won't be able to counter the evidence showing that the management of AFIP lied on multiple occasions about the evidence and the opinions of its staff? Afraid you can't tell us why they order no autopsy when the pathologists at the examination were calling for one?

Afraid you have no answer for the question of why there was no Air Force Crash Safety Board (for the first time in Air Force history ... other than a clear case of friendly fire in Iraq)? Afraid to discuss why the Air Force declared it due to pilot error and weather before ANY on-site investigation had begun?

Afraid that you'll be unable to explain the missing portable beacon, the article by Aviation Week detailing how that beacon could have been used to make the plane fly into the mountain as it did, and the unusual "suicide" of the airport mechanic (who was in charge of that beacon) only days after the crash and before he could be interviewed?

Afraid you can't explain the timeline provided to Warren Christopher that said there were 2 survivors ... not just the one who curiously survived the crash and many hours on the ground only to die on the way to the hospital under a doctor's "care"? Afraid to explore why that survivor's body was cremated before even the family was notified of her death (against regulations)?

Afraid to explain how the U.S. Air Force and Croatian Minister of Transportation could both initially mistake anything on a plane for black boxes (they are very uniquely marked and both organizations confirmed they had been found) and a week later claim the plane didn't have any? Afraid that you won't be able to come up with a credible lie how a plane with no black box was allowed to fly not only Brown but the Sec Def and First "Lady" just weeks before (a violation of Air Force regulations)?

Afraid that you won't even be able to tell us why your hero Hillary used the plane only a week before the fateful "crash" to go to the same small airport in the middle of nowhere (what a coincidence)? Was that perhaps just after Brown (according to sworn testimony) told Bill that he was going to turn state's evidence in the Pearson probe into allegations of campaign finance violations (involving treasonable actions)?

And that's only half the suspicious items you will have to address in the death of Ron Brown if we debate. But no, like all good democRATS, you will undoubtedly run from the Brown facts, like democRATS ALWAYS do. Coward.

And as far a proving there was a crime, all that needs to happen is for Brown's body to be exhumed and autopsied (preferrably with some of the whistleblowing pathologists in attendance so we can trust the outcome). I imagine it would take only a week or two. Even after 6 or 7 years, if there was a bullet in his head, the metal fragments or slug and exit wound will still be there. THAT'S what people like you really fear because then there would be undeniable proof that a mass murder was committed and that the Clinton administration covered it up. Then all that would be needed would be to tie the loose ends together and identify who ordered the killing. And I'm sure that some of those AFIP managers who demonstrably lied about the evidence would be happy to give us a clue given that covering up a mass murder is a VERY serious offense. Don't you think?

66 posted on 10/17/2001 11:49:51 AM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: Hidy
The reason Clinton didn't go to jail is because he was investigated and found innocent. The reason the Bushes won't go to jail is because nobody (especially nobody in the CIA-controlled media) would dare to look into their affairs like Starr looked into Clinton's.

Who exactly "found him innocent"? Surely you can't mean the Senate not convicting him in the impeachment trial.

80 posted on 10/17/2001 2:14:26 PM PDT by lasereye
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