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We've got the Crips and the Bloods over there, and these guys think it's just fine. Some sound foreign policy. Hah!
1 posted on 10/18/2001 3:03:53 PM PDT by Sparticle
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Hardly a barf on this one. They are right to criticize Bush here. It IS a double standard. And the Israeli method is IMO far more effective and humane to bystanders - kill the perp with a small car bomb or a bullet. The Israelis can do this because they can go into Gaza undercover and get these creeps. We can't just saunter into Afghanistan, so we have to bomb the crap out of the Taliban instead.
2 posted on 10/18/2001 3:08:10 PM PDT by dirtboy
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This is the Jewish Democrats voicing their unbiased opinion?
3 posted on 10/18/2001 3:08:38 PM PDT by america-rules
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I don't get your barf alert. I agree wholeheartedly with the criticism.
4 posted on 10/18/2001 3:09:59 PM PDT by Roebucks
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Spart I am big Bush supporter but this is the first time in a long time that I agree with this Democrat. We have a double standard. As Israeli citizens and gov't officials are being killed and know who did it, we are telling Israel to restrain from doing anything.
7 posted on 10/18/2001 3:13:55 PM PDT by truthandlife
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Everyone please note that it is LIBERAL Democrats who are standing up for Israel here.

Conversely, it is the very conservative Bush administration that is criticizing Israel for doing the exact same thing it is doing itself.

Now, tell me again how conservatives are always in the right.

8 posted on 10/18/2001 3:15:14 PM PDT by Hidy
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What part of the Israelis killing murderous terrorist idiots are you objecting to?
9 posted on 10/18/2001 3:15:34 PM PDT by Rogmonster
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God Bless President Bush but on this issue he (or more correctly the traitors in our State Department) are 100% wrong!
12 posted on 10/18/2001 3:18:15 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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I don't know what gets in Bush's head that a Palestinian state is good for America. It is not, because a Palestinian state is more inclined at targeting the US than Israel. What would we do if Arafat sent his ba$tards on our shores while we are telling Israel to stay put? Would we stay put? Go there and do the job for ourselves? It does not make any sense. A Palestinian state is not merely a grave for Israel, it is a black eye for US security. In this age of weapons of mass destruction, a tiny Palestine could do huge damage to the US.
14 posted on 10/18/2001 3:21:19 PM PDT by lavaroise
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Just another aspect from the dual allegiance Senators and congressman of the jewish heritage. Now is not the time for moaning and groaning and criticism of the bush Admin. while the wolves are at the door of America. Perhaps they should go to Israel and join their efforts but don't detract from the United States during the time of war...If I got my news right Congress cut and ran to safety today in the face of adversity .

AT THE SAME TIME THEY TELL US TO CONTINUE OUR LIVES, WITHOUT CHANGE ,TO SHOW THE ENEMY WE ARE NOT AFRAID.

15 posted on 10/18/2001 3:22:24 PM PDT by chatham
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The Bush administration criticized the shooting, saying it opposes Israeli's practice of targeted killings of Palestinians it believes to be responsible for terrorist attacks.

Is there a more effective way to do it but to target those responsible?

17 posted on 10/18/2001 3:25:38 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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These guys are ripping the State Dept., not Bush. The title of this article is B.S.!
19 posted on 10/18/2001 3:27:56 PM PDT by PianoMan
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Why am I not surprised to see that Lantos still has no grasp of foriegn policy. For those of you inclined to agree with him please allow me to explain: the point of trying to keep Israel somewhat in check is that it hurts our ability to keep religion out of this conflict. If Israel undertakes a massive offensive it incites radical Muslims, and inspires some moderate muslims to become radicals, at a time when we are trying to ensure the Arab and Muslim world that the war in which we are engaged is not about religion. While we do have some limited ability to proffer this claim Israel has none. Israel always has been and always will be a religious state. This does not take away from our support of Israel, but underscores the need for all of the players on the same side to understand the strategic goals and how best to achieve ALL of them.

Or, more simply put: There is a time and a place for everything. Now is not the time for this action by Israel, but that day is coming. Patience and determination will win the day.

21 posted on 10/18/2001 3:31:23 PM PDT by BlueNgold
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Bush and Powell are wrong on their opposition to Israel's targeting of terrorists. They have every right to kill the killers, just like we have every right to kill bin Laden and his band of terrorists.
24 posted on 10/18/2001 3:33:28 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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Anyone think that Bush just might be trying to hold things together until it's Yassir's turn to eat sh!t and die?
25 posted on 10/18/2001 3:34:37 PM PDT by metesky
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Murdering each other over there (tit for tat) is more like a fued. However killing 6000 in one attack over here is more like an act of war... Lets Roll!!!
34 posted on 10/18/2001 3:53:52 PM PDT by maxamillion
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Israel is doing the right thing. Nobody can honestly fault them. However, we can never put them through the wringer enough times for the USS Liberty.

A wink and a nod, and three or four or five smacks upside the head. That's what they get.

35 posted on 10/18/2001 3:57:21 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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You anti-jewish proclivities aside, this article does not warrant a barf alert.

Rep. Gary Ackerman, D-New York, the ranking Democrat on the Subcommittee on the Middle East and Asia, said it was inconsistent for the United States to denounce Israel when "they go after the miserable SOBs [who launch terrorist attacks against Israel] ... and they have every bit as much evidence as we have" for the September 11 terrorist attacks.

As much as I hate to admit it, but this rat is right and so is Lantos and the other rat mentioned in the article. The State Department's position is sheer hypocrisy. President Bush said that we were waging war against all terrorism and if blowing up a bunch of teenagers dancing at a disco isn't terrorism then I'm afraid I don't know what is.

39 posted on 10/18/2001 4:00:24 PM PDT by pgkdan
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"If an American pilot ... would succeed through targeted assassination to kill Osama bin Laden, he would get the Congressional Medal of Honor and a ticker tape parade down Fifth Avenue," said Rep. Tom Lantos, D-California.

Killing someone actively waging war against you, is not assassination. Lantos shows no sense in calling it such. We need to not let our anger provoke us into suggesting that we do not understand very essential distinctions.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

46 posted on 10/18/2001 4:15:10 PM PDT by Ohioan
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Why is there a (Barf Alert) attached to this article?
68 posted on 10/18/2001 4:54:12 PM PDT by xm177e2
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No, the problem is that the State Department, under Colin Powell, is just so damned afraid that Israel is gonna "muck up" their precious 'coalition' that they're poking the Israelis in the ribs at the drop of a hat. Powell..........State Department...........just shut the f**k up and back up your President for once.
73 posted on 10/18/2001 5:01:21 PM PDT by RightOnline
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