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NY Juror angered that U.S. unprepared for attacks
Reuters | 10/18/01 | Gail Appleson, Law Correspondent

Posted on 10/18/2001 3:55:56 PM PDT by kattracks

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I was mad at my government. ... I was very angry with them. Were they listening?

No, the clinton administration wasn't listening.

1 posted on 10/18/2001 3:55:56 PM PDT by kattracks
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Memo to juror - Happy with the life sentence you gave these animals? Or do you want a do-over?
2 posted on 10/18/2001 3:57:40 PM PDT by mgc1122
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Why weren't we better prepared?

behold the xlinton legacy.

3 posted on 10/18/2001 3:59:34 PM PDT by glock rocks
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No, the clinton administration wasn't listening.

Clinton was more focused on seeing California go from a bastion of European based civilization, to a polyglot residential mess. (Remember his smirking announcement in his last State of the Union Message.)

To Clinton, terrorism was seen as a potential benefit, that could be used to enlarge Clinton's powers.

We will be paying a price for those Clinton years for generations. Don't expect any instant remedy for all that he accomplished in undermining our heritage and values.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

4 posted on 10/18/2001 4:06:52 PM PDT by Ohioan
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They [the 1998](embassy bombers) were in training for what they were planning for the World Trade Center," said the juror, . . .

Lemme see now, if memory serves, that would have been under the auspices of the Klinton/Reno Justice Department lady, just like the attack on the Cole.

5 posted on 10/18/2001 4:09:43 PM PDT by SamKeck
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That's no excuse -- the Bush administration had ample time to act on the evidence that was presented in this trial. In fact, every "law enforcement official" in the U.S. should have known after the 1993 bombing of the WTC that they were going to target the buildings again -- the guys who masterminded that attack admitted it at their trial.

We are all to blame for this, since we have sit back on our fat @sses and let other people look out for our safety.

This reminds me of an interview I heard up here in Canada with a juror in the case of a child killer a few years ago. This juror (a man in his 40s) apparently held out for an acquittal until the last minute, but finally relented and agreed to convict the defendant.

"Your fellow jurors couldn't understand," the interviewer said, "why you held out for so long when the evidence against the accused killer was so overwhelming."

"To be honest," the guy replied, "I would have convicted on Day 1 based on the evidence in the case. My problem was that I really wanted to see him acquitted. That bastard is going to spend the rest of his life in prison, whereas I was hoping he would be acquitted so I could kill him myself."

Wow.

6 posted on 10/18/2001 4:11:01 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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Exactly. The buck definitely stops at the now cobweb covered desk of Bill C (and his henchpersons, Janet Reno, Louis Freeh, et al).

That said, I think there's another important note in this. Had I been on that jury, I certainly would have voted for the death penalty. But, having served on many juries (in New York and California), I can tell you that many people get on juries by lying. That is, they have already decided how they are going to vote, and they lie to get on the jury. In this case, these people had decided that if they had to go for a guilty verdict, they were still going to vote against the death penalty, although of course they responded in the jury interview that they had no objection to the death penalty. It's a real problem - I have been on juries with people who suddenly announce that they "can't find anybody guilty because God told us not to judge," etc. They should have been eliminated in the first round of questions to prospective jurors, but they didn't answer honestly. Jury nullification is no joke, and anybody who suggests it or practices it for any reason is not a good American and should suffer whatever consequences there may be. Unfortunately, in many cases, the people who suffer the consequences are those later attacked by the criminals these people set free.

7 posted on 10/18/2001 4:14:54 PM PDT by livius
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Clinton didn't have time to prepare. He was too busy not having sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky. Plus it takes time to come up with dodges like "It depends what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
8 posted on 10/18/2001 4:19:20 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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And what did Bush do to prepare for Sept. 11?
9 posted on 10/18/2001 4:22:44 PM PDT by FreeYourMind
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Memo to juror - Happy with the life sentence you gave these animals? Or do you want a do-over?

Had I been on the jury, it would have been hard for me to NOT apply the death penalty to these killers.

On the other hand, if they truly believe that dying for the cause gets them to heaven, maybe a life sentence is more severe punishment? Of course, as a prisoner, there is always a chance that a killer might escape or kill a guard.

With apologies to any devout peace-loving Muslims, is there any chance we could feed these prisoners bacon at breakfast, ham sandwich for lunch, and a pork chop for dinner? Probably not.

10 posted on 10/18/2001 4:26:12 PM PDT by BillF
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Why weren't we better prepared?" she asked
Probably because you've been voting liberals into office all your life...
11 posted on 10/18/2001 4:31:14 PM PDT by Libertina
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And what are we doing now? Instituting phoney new security procedures at airports? Chasing after Anthrax cases one at a time as they pop up? How is it possible to anticipate the next terrorist act? The only thing we know for sure is that it will be committed by dedicated Muslims visiting us from suspect countries. If we don't join together in a popular outcry to send such visitors home, now, then we are all as guilty as Clinton of "looking the other way".

We are either against the terrorists (with all that implies) or we are aiding them and abetting them.

Any middle ground that you think you see here is sheer mirage.

12 posted on 10/18/2001 4:35:22 PM PDT by samtheman
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Probably because you've been voting liberals into office all your life... 11 posted on 10/18/01 4:31 PM Pacific by Libertina [

B I N G O !!!!

14 posted on 10/18/2001 4:38:28 PM PDT by timestax
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To: trax2001
Had a chance meeting outside the store today with a former Special Ops (SEAL) guy. It was a very incredible conversation - he was absolutely amazing. He said he couldn't tell me 99% of the stuff he knew, but what he did tell me was unforgetable. We have superb resouces, FReeepers, that never reach the public's attention. I felt SO MUCH better.

Anyway, why am I saying this here? Because when he met Clinton, who stuck out his hand, out hero refused to shake his hand.

Feel good, my friends about the outcome of this war. Feel very, very good.

15 posted on 10/18/2001 4:43:25 PM PDT by bond7
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Memo to juror - Happy with the life sentence you gave these animals? Or do you want a do-over?

The jurors did not give a "life sentence" ... they were split as to death and we can't blame these women ... they may have voted for death. In fact, the judge gave the life sentence. These women sound okay!

16 posted on 10/18/2001 4:46:01 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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B I N G O !!!!
Thank you, I do try to be accurate. :)
18 posted on 10/18/2001 5:17:47 PM PDT by Libertina
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