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To: eleni121
The evidence is all there and I will be happy to enlighten you by sending you websites and titles if you wish. But I am sure you can find the information yourself.

You continue to miss the point. I never claimed that Turkey was a model society. I was only disputing the statement that it is not possible to have a secular state with an Islamic populace. It is indeed possible to separate church and state, even in Islam.

21 posted on 10/26/2001 10:39:48 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum
"I never claimed they were a model state."

"They killed Armenians, who happened to be Christian. And it happened before Ataturk. Certainly they're not proud of it, any more than we are proud of how we treated the aboriginal people in the Americas. How does that prove that they today have an Islamic State?"

99.9% of Turks are Muslim. It is an Islamic state in all but name only and that is because they are clever enough to have played the Cold War card and NATO was and is stupid enough to have bought into it to the detriment of our true allies - Greece etc. Christians live in virtual terror and remain because of the Patriarchate mainly.

Bottom line: You are an apologist for the Turks. AND - For you to compare what happened in the US and Turkey is an abomination! There is no comparison!

22 posted on 10/26/2001 11:11:57 AM PDT by eleni121
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