[ClancyJ]

I agree that the immigration problem is one of the biggest. I agree that the students need to be returned, that those violating immigration need to be handled - all of it. Do you really believe that they are not looking at this aspect? I would think that this is one of the reasons we have a Homeland Security now. Yet, these things take time - how do you go in 5 weeks after an attack and totally reorganize our system without studying it, getting information and working out a new system? Do you really think all of this could be done the same minute you are getting attacked, mounting a war, getting info on the hijackers and trying to catch them?

You people expect miracles. We have been in this situation 1-1/2 months. In this month we were attacked, the air traffic shut down, 5,000 people killed, massive activation of the military, massive rescue efforts mounted, immediate protective efforts taken, a military plan formulated, coalitions formed, policy stance developed. Then, we were hit with the anthrax attack, more activation of experts, investigations, testing, analyzing while fighting the war, briefings daily, press attacks.

Give them a break - it will be done but it will be done right not just slamdunk and have to redo it again and explain to the enemy press why it did not work properly the first time.

Yet, continue to expect miracles from the government you apparently think is out to get you. If you think they are so untrustworthy why in the world would you expect a perfect response to two attacks and total reorganization of the U.S. procedures?

[philman_36]

I agree that the students need to be returned, that those violating immigration need to be handled - all of it. Do you really believe that they are not looking at this aspect?
Then why is there not legislation addressing the immigration issue? Desirous legislation of any sort seems like it can quite readily be passed. Nothing has been passed which addresses your concerns. Why do you think that is? What about an immediate call to secure the borders? That seems like legislation that would have a huge public support, yet our borders are as open as they were before 9-11. What about creating emergency legislation for reviewing the paperwork of all students on visa? That seems like an easy enough task and well within the bounds of our legislators. There are records already in place and if the "student" or "visa participant" doesn't show up then APB's can be issued for those persons. Let LEO's handle it as that is what their job is.

I would think that this is one of the reasons we have a Homeland Security now.
I would think, and rightfully expect the INS to properly do their job, not have another office like the Homeland Security be created. That particular office doesn't seem to be doing anything to address your concerns either.

Yet, these things take time - how do you go in 5 weeks after an attack and totally reorganize our system without studying it, getting information and working out a new system?
Seems like a lot of things can be done in 5 weeks. Heard about the PATRIOT Act? Where is the legislation to overhaul INS? That does seem to be where the problem lies, doesn't it, in your line of reasoning? Why does a whole new "system" have to be "worked out"? Didn't the one in place have enough legislation and financial backing to do the job it was created to do?
You people expect miracles. We have been in this situation 1-1/2 months. In this month we were attacked, the air traffic shut down, 5,000 people killed, massive activation of the military, massive rescue efforts mounted, immediate protective efforts taken, a military plan formulated, coalitions formed, policy stance developed. Then, we were hit with the anthrax attack, more activation of experts, investigations, testing, analyzing while fighting the war, briefings daily, press attacks.
Press attacks? Anyway...From the way you are going it sounds like some miracles were performed. Have you looked at the "miracles" you've listed or do those things seem like they "just happened" on their own?

Yet, continue to expect miracles from the government you apparently think is out to get you.
I don't expect "miracles" from the government. What I do expect is competence, which seems lacking to me in some areas. Miracles are for God, not governments. You seem to think otherwise though.

If you think they are so untrustworthy why in the world would you expect a perfect response to two attacks and total reorganization of the U.S. procedures?
"U.S. procedures" are being reorganized though aren't they. Why, some would argue that the IV Amendment was just done away with. Isn't that reorganizing "U.S. procedures"? And again, I don't expect a "perfect" response, I expect a competent one. I'm not seeing either type of response.
Just a few thoughts of my own concerning your thoughts.