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The Towers Have Fallen - But We Missed the Message
timessquarechurch.org ^ | 9/16/01

Posted on 10/29/2001 7:54:47 AM PST by truthandlife

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1 posted on 10/29/2001 7:54:47 AM PST by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
Oh, Shut UP!
2 posted on 10/29/2001 7:57:47 AM PST by grammymoon
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To: truthandlife
Six weeks prior to the disaster, the Holy Spirit forewarned our pastoral staff that a calamity was coming.

Uhhh.... thanks for passing that information on.

3 posted on 10/29/2001 7:58:42 AM PST by OWK
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To: truthandlife
Is this David Wilkerson?
4 posted on 10/29/2001 7:58:52 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: grammymoon
Hahaha. I was going to reply, but I think you put it more eloquently than I could.
5 posted on 10/29/2001 8:00:32 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: DittoJed2
FYI. The Holy Spirit has been stirring my heart this direction for many weeks. It is a long read but well worth it.
6 posted on 10/29/2001 8:01:03 AM PST by truthandlife
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I am sorry I did not post the author but it is David Wilkerson.
7 posted on 10/29/2001 8:02:26 AM PST by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
If You’re a Christian, You Know God Has Delivered a Message to America and the World Through This Disaster.

And that message was what?

Straighten up and fly right, or I'll smash even more of your innocent children against the side of a skyscraper?

You sure do have a twisted version of what constitutes God.

Just so you know... the victims of this horrible act were killed by evil men, not God. They also sought to blame their evil on God. They too, were wrong.

8 posted on 10/29/2001 8:02:36 AM PST by OWK
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To: truthandlife
You criticize but do not listen. You laugh but do not learn.
To open an old argument; there has been arguments dealing with concept of this happening because it was a judgement from God or that God lifted His almighty hand off of the USA to show us just how protected we are. HOW long will we as a nation continue to sneer at HIM?

9 posted on 10/29/2001 8:04:17 AM PST by BIOMAN
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To: truthandlife
I'm not going to start praying because of the attacks on our very way of life.I'm not going to start because I never stopped!Also,I'm not going to start flying "Old Glory"because I have always displayed our flag.Of course we are meant to learn lessons from this debacle.A general lassitude in our National Security made these dastardly acts of War possible.That(being addressed),now it's time to fight and Win a War against this kind of barberous anarchy!!We must attack and not dig in.George S.Patton Jr. had three rules concerning the undertaking of a War.ATTACK,ATTACK,and ATTACK!!!
10 posted on 10/29/2001 8:07:49 AM PST by bandleader
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To: truthandlife
This is old and scripturally WRONG. God does not "teach" through disaster: He teaches through His Word. Disasters are the tools of the other guy.
11 posted on 10/29/2001 8:10:36 AM PST by LS
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To: truthandlife
So what you are saying is that God uses people to punish people, does that mean that the people who are doing the punishing are righteous because after all they are carrying out Gods will.

So you agree with Osama Bin Laden that he is indeed a chosen one carrying out Gods work.

Was Hitler and Stalin, and Idi Amin, Pal Pot were they also chosen after all they to punished there fellow man over and over again. Or does God only care about attacks against Israel and America

Tony

12 posted on 10/29/2001 8:13:39 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: truthandlife
Isn't that special.
13 posted on 10/29/2001 8:14:50 AM PST by Jack Barbara
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To: truthandlife
Thank you for this. Bump to finish reading it later.
14 posted on 10/29/2001 8:14:52 AM PST by mombonn
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To: tonycavanagh
You're not supposed to ask questions like that.

You're just supposed to say amen.

15 posted on 10/29/2001 8:15:27 AM PST by OWK
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To: LS
I guess you did not read the whole article. I think I have seen you on hear before. Aren't you a Jehovah's Witness? Anyway I will post what God did through correction.

God Sent Wake-Up Calls to Israel

The Lord’s first wake-up call to Israel came in an invasion by Assyria. This arch enemy attacked two Israelite provinces, Zebulun and Naphtali. Fortunately, the attacks were limited to these two points, and the damage was minimal. Yet God was clearly speaking to his people. The Lord’s chosen nation lost their sense of security. Yet they still missed the message God was speaking. Israel then received a second wake-up call. This one was very severe. Two nations whom Scripture calls the “enemies of Israel” — the Syrians and the Philistines — combined forces for a sudden attack. According to Isaiah, this attack came from both “before, and…behind” (Isaiah 9:12). This means the invaders came from the east and the west, surrounding Israel. And their sudden attack was totally devastating.

Now we come to the heart of my message, and to the question most Americans are asking: Where was God in this sudden invasion of his chosen land? What were his people to make of the disaster that had come upon them? Isaiah tells us God was faithful to speak to his people: “The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel” (Isaiah 9:8).. God spoke a clear word. And he sent the message to the whole nation.

Beloved, this verse tells us something very important at our own time of devastation. It says simply, “God always sends his word.” Never in history has the Lord left his people clueless in a time of calamity. He has never abandoned us and forced us to figure out things on our own. He always provides a word of understanding.

Even now the Lord is raising up godly watchmen to speak for him in these times. These shepherds are grieving, weeping and repenting as they seek God’s face. And I believe they’re hearing and understanding the Lord’s message behind the present events. Moreover, they’re not afraid to proclaim dire warnings, because they know they’ve heard from God. They’re compelled to speak of his purposes behind our calamities.

17 posted on 10/29/2001 8:18:53 AM PST by truthandlife
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To: OWK
Straighten up and fly right, or I'll smash even more of your innocent children against the side of a skyscraper? You sure do have a twisted version of what constitutes God.

You seem to have some difficulty reading words on a page. I am not a Pentacostal and disagree with some of Wilkerson's thoughts, but your knee-jerk liberalism misses by a mile.

One cannot read the Old Testament without seeing that God doesn't need to 'cause' the effects of evil. He only needs stay His hand of protection and we will feel the full effect of evil.

It is clear to me that God has protected America from the evil of the Mohammedan terrorism all these years and on September 11, for reasons known only to Him, He lifted that protection to allow the full force of true evil to come to America.

Now this article asks "why?" And that is a good question.

Throughout the OT, God repeatedly tells us that He allowed the force of evil to come against Israel and Judah to teach them a lesson -- to teach them the evil of worshipping idols or living licentiously. Now, I am NOT a prophet, so I have no idea why God did not protect us from the Mohammedan evil -- as He did all those years from communism. But it is not out of line to ask the question.

And asking the question does not imply that the writer thinks that God "... smash[es] ... innocent children against the side of a skyscraper." He self-evidently does not. But God could have protected our innocent children that day and He did not. Why?

18 posted on 10/29/2001 8:19:19 AM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: OneIfByLand
Since when do FReepers tell other FReepers to shut up?

Uhh..... When they say something stupid?

What do I win?

19 posted on 10/29/2001 8:19:39 AM PST by OWK
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To: truthandlife
FYI. The Holy Spirit has been stirring my heart this direction for many weeks.

That wasn't the Holy Spirit.

20 posted on 10/29/2001 8:21:50 AM PST by mlo
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