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How many US Muslims?
Daniel Pipes via NY POST ^ | 10/29/01 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 10/29/2001 9:41:13 AM PST by Zorobabel

How many Muslims live in the United States?

Until now, basically, no one has had any idea. By law, the U.S. Census cannot ask questions about religion. There are also plenty of other difficulties in coming up with a number, starting with the problem of defining who is a Muslim: Does one include non-standard believers like Louis Farrakhan and the Druze?

Uncertainty has generated some wildly divergent numbers. A large 1990 demographic survey counted 1.3 million Muslims. In 1998, a Pakistani newspaper put the number at 12 million. Even the usually authoritative Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches found 527,000 American Muslims in 1996 and six times as many (3.3 million) in 1998. Needing some kind of consensus figure, Muslim organizations came up with a self-acknowledged "guestimation" of 6 million, which this year they decided to raise to 7 million.

These numbers were so widely adopted (even by this writer) that they acquired a sheen of authority. But repetition does not transform a guess into a fact. The trouble is a generic one; religious organizations commonly inflate their membership to enhance their voice in the public square. Fortunately, the smog of imprecision finally lifted last week, with the appearance of two authoritative studies by highly regarded demographers. (Each study relied on respondents' religious self-identification.) Interestingly, they agreed on a very similar number, one much smaller than the old guestimate. The American Religious Identification Survey 2001 carried out by the Graduate Center of the City University of New York polled more than 50,000 people and found the total American Muslim population to be 1.8 million.

Meanwhile, the University of Chicago's Tom Smith reviewed prior national surveys and (in a study sponsored by the American Jewish Committee) found that the best estimate puts the Muslim population in 2000 at 1,886,000. (With a nod toward figures supplied by Islamic organizations, he allowed that this number could be as high as 2,814,000 Muslims.) In other words, two authoritative studies carried out by scholars found that American Muslims number under 2 million - less than a third of the hitherto-consensus number.

To this, the militant Islamic groups in Washington - widely but erroneously seen as representative of American Muslims - responded with predictable hyperbole. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) furiously accused Smith's report of working "to block Muslim political participation." The American Muslim Council (AMC) charged Smith with nothing less than trying to "deny the existence of 41/2 million American Muslims" and blamed him for "tearing at the very heart of America." The AMC also amusingly claimed that its own estimate of "more than 7 million" Muslims came from the 2000 Census figures - erroneously thinking that the Census asks about religion.

Oh, and that's the same AMC which in 1992 pressured a researcher named Fareed Nu'man to find 6 million Muslims in the country; Nu'man later testified that he counted just 3 million and was fired by the AMC when he refused to inflate his number above 5 million.

Why does the militant Islamic lobby insist on the 6-7 million figures? Because a larger number, even if phony, offers it enhanced access and clout. Convincing the Republican Party that Muslims number 8 million, for example, led to urgent calls from its chairman for "meeting with [Muslim] leaders," something which becomes less of a priority when the Muslim population turns out to be much smaller. Knowing the real number of Muslims will, most immediately, likely impede two militant Islamic efforts now underway: one (pushed by The Minaret magazine) to get Americans to acknowledge that their own misdeeds partially caused the atrocities of Sept. 11; and another (led by CAIR) to halt the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan. The longer-range implications will be yet more significant.


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1 posted on 10/29/2001 9:41:13 AM PST by Zorobabel
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To: Zorobabel
How about "too many".
2 posted on 10/29/2001 9:46:54 AM PST by MaxwellWolf
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To: MaxwellWolf
Thankfully, most of them are pro-American.
3 posted on 10/29/2001 9:49:15 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Zorobabel
one too many!!!!!
4 posted on 10/29/2001 9:49:45 AM PST by asneditor
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To: Zorobabel
How about too many and they all need to find another country to go to.
6 posted on 10/29/2001 9:53:29 AM PST by Mev
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To: asneditor
bump
7 posted on 10/29/2001 9:53:48 AM PST by Selara
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To: Mev
I agree, and I think it's important that our politicians know the true numbers of Muslims in the country, so as to not inflate the importance of their vote.
8 posted on 10/29/2001 10:05:04 AM PST by Zorobabel
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To: Zorobabel
Take the number of illegal Mexicans in the country, divide that by the number of illegal's from El Salvador, add the number of people Castro dumped on us during the Mariel Boat Lift, then subtract the number of bullets in the weapon pointed at Alien Gonzales. Take that total then multiply it by the number of store clerks at 7-Elevens. After that, add the number of financial scams by Nigerians but only the regular mail scams. Not the Nigerian email scams. Finally, take that total and divide it by Babara Striesands IQ (64) and you have the total of Muslims in America.
9 posted on 10/29/2001 10:14:37 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Zorobabel
Does Mr. Pipes ever pipe down?..I've seen him making the talking head rounds as of late....to me he seems too much of a mischief maker in posession of a questionable agenda .
10 posted on 10/29/2001 10:15:36 AM PST by wheezer
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To: Djk
I should have said "most of the ones I know." However, I did know a few Paki's in college that I wouldn't ever turn my back on. Paki's on the whole are NUTS. Turks are usually pro-American and decent though.
11 posted on 10/29/2001 10:22:18 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Zorobabel
Even one is too many! Islam = Murder
12 posted on 10/29/2001 10:29:57 AM PST by TexasRepublic
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To: StolarStorm
Thankfully, most of them are pro-American.

If there are any pro-American muslims, they most likely are the ones with American ancesters...

After giving this some thought, I concluded that if I had been born in China or Russia, I would call myself an American who was born in China (or Russia)...I have heard this expression used numerous times...

I would suspect this is probably true of muslim Arabs born in this country...

13 posted on 10/29/2001 10:41:34 AM PST by Iscool
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To: isthisnickcool
Finally, take that total and divide it by Babara Striesands IQ (64)

I was really agreeing with your formula, and then you go and double Striesands' actual IQ and totally messed up the final number...... :)

14 posted on 10/29/2001 10:42:42 AM PST by Texican72
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To: Djk
Amen bump.

Heard someone today call themself a Palestine-American!

15 posted on 10/29/2001 11:01:33 AM PST by AMERIKA
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To: TexasRepublic
Sooooo many muslims..soooooo little time. Just heard Bush say that EVERY American is a soldier!Hmmmmmmm!
16 posted on 10/29/2001 11:29:18 AM PST by poweqi
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To: Zorobabel
...and how many islamists?
17 posted on 10/29/2001 11:44:01 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Zorobabel
Like CAIR doesn't hate Pipe's guts enough as is. <G>
18 posted on 10/29/2001 12:29:01 PM PST by JAWs
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To: Texican72
was really agreeing with your formula, and then you go and double Striesands' actual IQ and totally messed up the final number...... :)

I was using her METRIC IQ number:)

19 posted on 10/29/2001 12:58:23 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: poweqi
According to the Muslim Religious center there are 2.2 million ACTIVE Muslim in the US. They believe that there may be as many as one million addition who are not active in any organized group. There are people who live in small towns or rural areas to far from a major center to join.
20 posted on 10/29/2001 1:38:02 PM PST by AlKipple
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