After attacks, many Southerners fly different flag

The Charleston Post & Courier ^ | October 29, 2001 | ELLEN B. MEACHAM

[bluecollarman]

If you post the term you use to refer to African Americans will it get pulled because it is offensive?

Dude...so far you have called us racist, Nazis, ignorant, and more... where would your credibility lie on this PC issue? You know what really sucks? We probably voted exactly alike.

[DebtsPaid]

"Civil War" is a misnomer. Any literate person knows that it was the "War Between the States".

[hoot2]

Bama...HEART of Dixie...
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[JMJ333]

Not once on this thread did I refer to it as a civil war. In all posts I said WONA--"War of northern agression."

[Howlin]

Really? My understanding was that preserving the union was the deciding factor for Lincoln.

My understanding was that Lincoln did NOT want to free the slaves, but he had to.

[Howlin]

That only proves that Germans are more intelligent than Southerners who fly the Star & Bars.

And that remark only shows you know not of which you try to speak.

[Howlin]

You just outed yourself.

Oh, he'll come for you now. I looked at his previous posts. He has a "thing" about gays. And everything else apparently. He's a classic disruptor-hater.

[clamper1797]

All the Stars And Stripes is is the flag under which Klinton perjured himself, Lyndon Johnson caused 58,000 GIs to die with his Gulf Of Tonkin "incident" that was a hoax - and the flag under which IRS bureaucrats threatened to prosecute my elderly middle-class mother unless she promptly paid $700+ in back taxes she never owed (they later admitted) in another of their snafus while Klinton was taxing naive native-born "Americans" like you to come up with $2 billion per year for restoring welfare for aliens.

These ARE SOME of the reasons that I fly the stars and bars next to my stars and stripes. As I said in my earlier post ... I am for the size and scope of a Federal government as described by the constitution. Over the years the federalies have wildly and UNCONSTITUTIONALLY expanded the fed government to a point that would NEVER have been accepted by our founders.

[Constitution Day]

"Like it or not your banner has been appropriated by some pretty crummy organizations and I don't hear y'all complaining about it much"

It took me a while to get back to you... I had already logged off when you replied to me.

I AM complaining about it!
As an SCV member I find it offensive for the KKK to use the Confederate flag. As an American, it's equally offensive for them to use the American flag.

The image you posted was from the "modern" KKK; even more of a joke compared to the old one, which was far more sinister.
I am not going to click on your links because I just don't care what they have to say.
Their ideology is as morally & intellectually bankrupt as communism to me.

The last Klan "rally" I saw on TV had all of, say, ten or fifteen people? Oooh... Really scary!

I will find the picture I have been referring to & post it.

[Hans Moleman]

My my, looks like I touched a nerve. The truth hurts indeed!

[Twodees]

Yes, ma'am, he fits the description perfectly. Let him come. Nobody has been able to run me off yet. ;-)

[Constitution Day]

Non-Sequitur:

re: your posts #19, #22:
I'll see your t-shirt and raise you a few photos.

"The Ku Klux Klan reached the height of its membership -- 4.5 million -- in the 1920s, and, then as now, the Klan tried to wrap its racism and hatred in the flag and patriotism. Displayed at the old fairgrounds in Evansville (Indiana?) in 1925 by Rock County KKK members, the flag pictured is 104 feet long and weighs 345 pounds."

KKK rally, unknown date

Early KKK poster.

Ohio, 1924.

Virginia, 1925.

D.C., 1926.

Long Island, New York, date unknown.

D.C. again, 1952.

Wow! This one's in color; must be recent!
(BTW- what a crowd they have, huh?)

Klan initiation. Where *is* that Confederate flag, hmmm?

Check the sign out.

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I could post many, many more.
However, I really don't want to waste JimRob's bandwidth on their trash, and I think I made my point.

Am I saying that the American flag is a "symbol" of racism? NO.
Am I saying we should take it down from every public building just because a vile group like the KKK has appropriated it for their own purposes? NO.

I fly BOTH flags and am very proud to be both a Southerner AND an American. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Don't misunderstand me or put words in my mouth.
I am certainly no racist or KKK member, and your being "angered by (my) implications" will not make that true.

Being married to a Jew, I don't think I would last very long as a KKK member.

As the photos prove, in your own words,
"...your banner has been appropriated by some pretty crummy organizations and I don't hear y'all complaining about it much."

CD

[JMJ333]

Since you didn't answer the question I'll ask it again. If you drive around with an american flag on your car are you promoting the bombing of aspirin factories in the Sudan? Are you promoting the deaths at Waco? Or does it have more meaning to you? What about post 113? Are those pictures representative of why you fly the flag?

Try getting a clue.

[aomagrat]

Ummmm...I hate to rain on your parade but this whole confederate flag thing in the south has been and still is a class issue.

That's riduculous. Pride in Southern Heritage crosses all class boundries. You can see Confederate flags on every vehicle from rusted out pickups to five figure SUV's, and from small houses to large multi-story mansions. It's not a "class" thing, it's a way of life.

[Rebelbase]

Re #113. Thanks for posting those pix.

[Constitution Day]

Glad to do it. Hope lurkers see them as well.

FRegards.

[JMJ333]

Ummmm...I hate to rain on your parade but this whole confederate flag thing in the south has been and still is a class issue.

Is that why 40% of black folks in Mississippi voted to keep the confederate flag flying at the state capitol?

They voted that way because they have family who fought valiently in that war as well.

Deo Vindice.

[Non-Sequitur]

What no thanks for the picture and links that I posted? Mine where all more recent than the majority of his.

[LonePalm]

That Charles De Gaulle's sure was a quotable SOB.

I didn't know DeGaulle said that. "Garde la Foi," has been the family motto since long before DeGaulle's grandfather was born.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LoanPalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)