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What it was like to jump from the World Trade Center on 09-11-01
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Posted on 11/01/2001 6:06:29 AM PST by vannrox

What it was like to jump from
the World Trade Center
(on 09-11-01)





View from the Open Promenade




View from the Observatory




Inside the Observatory.




On the top. Imagine trying to be rescued by "chopper.




Its windy up top.




This is a view from the top.




A view looking at the tower next door.




A view towards the river.




On the top.




View UP UP UP.




Photo, from World Trade Center observation deck, looking north to midtown Manhattan.




Photo, from World Trade Center observation deck, looking east to the Brooklyn Bridge and beyond





TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: neverforget; nyc; wtc
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To: Pompah
I agree with one poster above (homeschoolmama I believe) who said it's the title maybe that is so offensive to me, but I can see there are alot of people who like it here.

I'll pass on the "happy news" from any of the talking heads, I notice they rarely speak of the atrocities of 9/11.

I won't ever forget.

I took my family (kids) to see ground zero this past weekend. I don't want them to ever forget what it looks like and feels like....It's historically essential we always honor those killed that day.

I've seen the pictures of the people jumping, it made me so sad but I think it's important to remember the innocent lives that were murdered so brutally.

121 posted on 11/01/2001 9:03:18 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: Grig
For the life of me I can't understand jumping out the window. I just couldn't bring myself to give up so completely, to be so without hope or faith that I would give up and take a plunge like that. I tried to put myself mental in their situation, but I would rather die fighting to get out than to jump.

You wouldn't have died fighting that day -- you would have died being burned to death at temperatures in the range of 1000-2000 degrees Fahrenheit, if you did not jump. There was nothing or nobody to "fight." They were doomed.

I saw people jumping that morning and am still haunted that I can't even imagine what was so horrible in there that they felt compelled to jump.

122 posted on 11/01/2001 9:12:44 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: neutrino
bump
123 posted on 11/01/2001 9:13:58 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: Grig
That's just it. I can't think like that. Just because I don't see a way out doesn't mean there isn't one, I would try finding a way to escape untill I was dead no matter how hopeless it seemed. You never know what will come from trying untill you actually do it.

When the floor is burning your feet and you're choking on black smoke and the doors to the stairway are locked, you pretty much know that you're screwed. My understanding is that it was quite hideous on the floors just above the impacts and that people knew pretty quickly that they were doomed.

124 posted on 11/01/2001 9:20:46 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: NYC GOP Chick
You wouldn't have died fighting that day

Fighting as in fighting for your life (ie: doing something to at least try to survive), not as in looking for someone to punch.

125 posted on 11/01/2001 9:22:41 AM PST by Grig
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To: vannrox
And lets not forget this fellow:

touristguy

Of course, he has gotten around to places like:

Hindenberg

and

SST

126 posted on 11/01/2001 9:31:13 AM PST by No Truce With Kings
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To: Grig
Fighting as in fighting for your life (ie: doing something to at least try to survive), not as in looking for someone to punch.

The people who were on the floors above the impacts were doomed. There was no escape for them. It was jump or be burned alive. Trust me, it was a gruesome and very scary scene -- even on the ground, four very short blocks away, where I was showered with tiny shards of slivers of glass. As numb as I was that morning, the jumpers still really got to me.

127 posted on 11/01/2001 9:37:14 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Black Agnes
Bump for later.
128 posted on 11/01/2001 9:44:56 AM PST by Angelwood
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I cannot imagine what it was like to witness that scene in person. I'm sitting here in Omaha and watching it on TV was simply horrific. Even to this very day some of those scenes still make me think it looked more like a bad movie.

For what it is worth I have a strong opinion regarding those people who think some of these photos and threads are for morbid interest. Yes, looking at this - heck, just the knowledge of this all - is unthinkable. It is not comfy to look at or to envision. But it is REAL. It happened. We have to make ourselves look at the things we do not want to see.

I truly feel for your personal witnessing of this terrible event. Actually "terrible" isn't enough. But you know there are no words that can adequately describe these events. And when we feel how awful it is to remember that scene and to now look at these pictures how in the world can we dishonor those right in the middle of it all losing their very lives by shielding ourselves from this horror. I hate to look but I have to. We must always remember this and I know we will.

(PS...I LOVE New York City. I have always wanted to live there. G-d bless you.)

129 posted on 11/01/2001 9:52:58 AM PST by BlueHorseShoe
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To: homeschool mama
You seem to be second guessing the people who jumped, assuming they're cowards for not fighting hard enough to get out alive. I consider your comments disrespectful to the victims and their families.

Then you do not understand what I am saying. There is nothing cowardly about being afraid of being burned, that is a natural and normal reaction and it is nothing to be ashamed of, but it is still a fear. Nor do I paint anyone who didn't get out as a coward who didn't fight 'hard enough' to save their life.

It is an undeniable fact however that everyone who decided to jump decided to STOP fighting for their life (I didn't see any makeshift parachutes or gliders and I don't think any of them expected to fly). They gave up all hope of surviving and picked the death that was most acceptable to them, AND IT IS THAT TOTAL GIVING UP OF ALL HOPE THAT I CAN NOT RELATE TO. They were without sufficient faith in themselves/God/chance to try any longer and I can't see myself every getting to that point. Daniel didn't kill himself to avoid being eaten alive by lions.

I know full well that if I was in their place it would have taken a miracle to suvive, and that miracles like that do not happen often, but I would not deny the chance for such a miracle by jumping, especialy if the fire wasn't even on my floor yet. My life will not end with my cooperation (unless it is to save the life of another), and if you are offended that I state I would make a different choice, too bad for you.

130 posted on 11/01/2001 9:53:46 AM PST by Grig
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To: DonQ
You are right the proper thing to do was to leave them to die.
131 posted on 11/01/2001 10:02:27 AM PST by Nov3
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To: BunnySlippers
Not according to the 911 telephone transcripts. Someone called and said they were one of 40 people who had made it to the roof and asked 911 for instructions on how to save their lives. The people in Tower One said that the excape doors into the stairwell leading up to the roof or down to the groudn were blocked with debris that had fallen during impact. But there WERE 40 people on the roof as of 20 minutes BEFORE the collapse.

I sure would like to hear those tapes. Do you have a link? They had a Port Authority spokesman on Fox a few days ago defending their decision to lock the roof doors to prevent suicides.

I hope what you heard is true but after that press conference I would like to hear the tapes myself.

132 posted on 11/01/2001 10:07:18 AM PST by Nov3
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To: Grig
That may be true, but I would have to actually be burning to get to that point. From the pictures I saw, the jumpers didn't look the least bit singed.

Warning, graphic description follows.

Have you ever accidentally splashed boiling water (212 degrees) on yourself, or touched with your bare skin the pan you were pulling out of a 350 degree oven?

That's intense, unbearable pain for the few moments it takes to remove your hand from the searing pan, or run cold water over the splash site, and it's *far* less than the heat it takes to actually "singe" anything.

Now imagine that pain over your entire body, unending, like leaving your face pressed up against the inside of a hot oven, as hot air at several hundred degrees rising from the fires blows through the floor you're on and/or out the broken window you're clinging to.

I'd jump too. And I wouldn't have any reason to wait until flames were actually licking my body.

133 posted on 11/01/2001 10:14:25 AM PST by Dan Day
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To: Nov3
Contents of 911 calls from 9/11

911 calls via freep thread

Original article here
134 posted on 11/01/2001 10:17:30 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: jwfiv
Terrifying. But a thread worth bumping. I can't even begin to imagine what I would choose if I were in their position.
135 posted on 11/01/2001 10:22:47 AM PST by Serb5150
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To: Nov3

Title: "Excerpts of 911 log on Sept. 11 reveal unfolding terror"


Go HERE to view the article.


136 posted on 11/01/2001 10:27:21 AM PST by vannrox
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To: Nov3

Excerpts of 911 log on Sept. 11 reveal unfolding terror


The Associated Press
10/1/01 9:00 PM


NEW YORK (AP) -- The 911 entries started at 8:47 a.m. with the words "BLDG EXPLOSION." Incident No. 0727 quickly unfolded as a diary of terror, as call after desperate call rolled in from the World Trade Center.


Excerpts from the log of the dispatcher for the Fire Department's Emergency Management Service were published Sunday in the Daily News.


The entries were published much as they appeared when they flashed on the computer screen Sept. 11. The time of each call is noted, and messages are abbreviated. MC stands for male caller, FC for female caller, STS for "states."


08:50:12 MC STS PLANE JUST FLEW INTO WORL TRADE CENTER---POSS COMMERCIAL AIRPLANE.


Then the calls began pouring in from One World Trade Center.


08:56:44 MC STS HE IS ON THE 87 FLR--STS 4 PERSON THERE W HIM--STS THERE IS FIRE.


08:57:26 PEOPLE SCREAMING IN BACKGROUND--STS CANNOT BREATHE---POSS SMOKE COMING THRU DOOR--FLR 103...TRAPPED.


09:04:50 MC--STS 103 FLR-CAN'T GET OUT--FIRE ON FLR...PEOPLE GETTING SICK


A report from the police aviation unit came in, saying people were falling from the building.


The dimensions of the disaster suddenly grew.


09:07:51 SECOND PLANE HIT THE SECOND BUILDING ... UNK EXTENT OF INJ.


09:09:14 MC STATES 2WTC---PEOPLE ARE JUMPING OUT OF THE SIDE OF A LRG HOLE---POSS NO ONE CATCHING THEM.


09:12:18 MC STS ON 106 FLR ABOUT 100 PEOPLE IN ROOM--NEED DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO STAY ALIVE.


09:17:39 MC STS ON 105 FLR...STAIRS COLLAPSE


09:36:33 FC STS THEY ARE STUCK THEY ARE STUCK IN THE ELEVATOR...STS THEY ARE DYING.


09:47:15 FC STS 2 WORLD TRADE CENTER---FLR105---STS FLOOR UNDERNEATH HER---COLLAPSE.


09:49:21 1 WORLD TRADE CTR...20 PEOPLE ON THE TOP WAVING...THEY ARE ALIVE PLEASE SEND HELP.


10:00:34 WORLD TRADE CENTER HAS COLLAPSED.


Suddenly all calls from that building ended. Calls from the north tower continued.


10:12:35 MC STS HE CAN BARELY BREATHE...105TH FLR


The calls ended at 10:33 a.m. as abruptly as they had begun, with a horrifying final note: "ENTIRE TOWER DOWN."



137 posted on 11/01/2001 10:32:46 AM PST by vannrox
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To: SunnyUsa
08:47:22 BLDG EXPLOSION

08:48:03 EXPLOSION ON TOP OF WORLD TRADE

08:48:07 PLANE INTO TOP OF BLDG

The date was Sept. 11 and incident No. 0727 was flashing onto the screen before the citywide dispatcher for the Fire Department's Emergency Medical Service in downtown Brooklyn.

The times registered when each call was logged. The codes and abbreviations were the same as for a fender bender or a kitchen fire. MC was a male caller. FC a female caller. STS stood for states, or says.

8:45 AM: Smoke billows from 1 World Trade Center after it is hit by first hijacked jet.

08:50:12 MC STS PLANE JUST FLEW INTO WORL TRADE CENTER---POSS COMMERCIAL AIRPLANE

08:50:22 FC STS WTC BLEW UP

08:50:29 FC STS SME AS ABV

The dispatcher was already sending ambulances to the scene. The screen recorded the arrival of Mario Santoro and Keith Fairben, who would be among the eight emergency medical people listed as missing.

08:50:46 #8027 SANTORO EMT...#8001 FAIRBEN EMT...@01 WORLD TRADE CENTER.

The screen kept flashing summaries of 911 calls received by police operators, at first mostly from people far enough away to immediately register what had happened.

08:52:53 FC STS BIG HOLE IN THE RIGHT SIDE

08:53:28 MC STS SOMEONE FELL OUT OF BUILDING

Then the screen flashed the first calls from inside 1 World Trade Center.

08:56:44 MC STS HE IS ON THE 87 FLR--STS 4 PERSON THERE W HIM--STS THERE IS FIRE

08:56:57 FROM FLR 47 ANON FC STATS BLDG SHAKED AND SMELLS GAS

One caller gave the name Hanley. The list of the missing would include a Christopher Hanley, who had been attending a Risk Water Conference at Windows on the World.

08:57:02 MC HANLEY STS SMOKE ON THE 106 FLR...PEOPLE CANNOT GET DOWN

Other calls came from the floors just below.

08:57:26 PEOPLE SCREAMING IN BACKGROUND--STS CANNOT BREATHE---POSS SMOKE COMING THRU THE DOOR---FLR 103... TRAPPED.

MC LUTNICK STS...SMOKE ON 104 FLR

Lutnick was apparently Gary Lutnick, of the bond trading firm Cantor Fitzgerald. He was the brother of the firm's chairman, Howard Lutnik, who had not yet arrived because he took his son to the first day of school.

08:58:52 CALLER STS ML CAME THR THE WINDOW

08:59:17 MC WILLIAM FRM 86 FLR--CEILING COLLAPSED

The dispatcher continued to send EMTs and paramedics, including two more who would never return, Yamel Merino and Carlos Lillo.

08:59:22 #4124 Merino

08:59:25 #3723 Lillo

The calls kept coming, giving floors and room numbers where even the bravest rescuer could not reach.

09:01:34 MC STS 104 FLR STS THERE ARE 12 PEOPLE STUCK AT LOC

09:01:53 FC STS HER SON AND ANOTHER MALE IS TRAPPED IN ROOM 8617.

09:02:10 FC CALLER STS PEOPLE ARE TRAPPED ON TOP OF BLDG---STS NEED SOMEONE TOP OF LOC

09:03:11 MC STS WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF BUILDING

More calls came from Cantor Fitzgerald, where 655 employees would go missing. These would include Ian Schneider, 45-year-old father of three.

09:03:12 MC SCHNEIDER STS ON 105 FLR THERE IS SMOKE W A LOT OF PERSONS INSIDE

There was also young Richard Caggiano.

09:04:14 MC CAGGIANO...STS PEOPLE TRAPPED ON THE 104 FLR...IN BACK ROOM...STS 35-40 PEOPLE

By then, the smoke had reached the lower floors.

09:04:24 MC STS TRAPPED ON FLR 22---HOLE IN HALLWAY---SMOKE COMING IN---UNABLE TO BREATHE---MC STATES WILL BREAK WINDOW

The calls kept coming from those above.

09:04:50 MC---STS 103 FLR--CANT GET OUT---FIRE ON FLR...PEOPLE GETTING SICK

A report from police aviation flashed across the dispatcher's screen.

09:05:03 AIR SEA #14 PEOPLE FALLING OUT OF BUILDING

Person after person jumped. The next police report marked the end of hope for those on the uppermost floors.

09:06:41 AIR SEA #14 UNABLE TO LAND ON ROOF

Call after call after call came from the trapped.

09:07:40 CALL FLR 103--ROOM 130---APPROX 30 PEOPLE---LOTS OF SMOKE---FC IS PREGNANT.

Second Horror

Eleven seconds later, an official notification flashed on the screen.

9:10 AM: Fire and debris explode from the second tower.

09:07:51 SECOND PLANE HIT THE SECOND BUILDING...UNK EXTENT OF INJ

The calls kept coming from the first building.

09:08:02 FC SCREAMING

09:08:15 FC STS WORLD TRADE ON FIRE---STS FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDED TO PUT OUT FIRE

09:07:10 JUMPER

09:09:14 MC STS HE'S IN THE OFFICE WITH 40 TO 60 PEOPLE---UNSURE WHICH WAY TO GO

Now, the first calls came from the second building

09:09:21 MC STS 2WTC---PEOPLE ARE JUMPING OUT THE SIDE OF A LRG HOLE---POSS NO ONE CATCHING THEM

The towers were now twins in terror.

09:07:25 MC STS DIFF BREATHING AT LOC

09:09:43 ON FLR 104--MC STS HIS WIFE IS ON THE 91 FL---STS STAIRS ARE ALL BLOCKED---STS WORRIED ABOUT HIS WIFE

09:08:22 STUCK OCCP ELEV ON 104 FLR---PEOPLE IN ELEV

09:11:30 FC STS POSS FEM IN WHEEL CHAIR ON 68TH FL...POSS ALONE

09:11:55 FC STS SON IS IN WORLD TRADE CENTER--STS IN RM 8617 FLOOR 86

09:12:18 MC STS ON 106 FLR ABOUT 100 PEOPLE IN ROOM---NEED DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO STAY ALIVE

The call summaries were interspersed with with notations of arriving ambulances and police reports of airport shutdowns, bridge closures and evacuations of public buildings.

09:13:52 100 FL FC UNABLE TO ID EXACT LOCATION NEEDS HELP

09:14:25 1 PP AND GRACIE MANSION BEEN EVACUATED

09:14:52 FC STS 100 FL---UNABLE TO SPEAK

09:15:34 SEVERAL JUMPERS FROM THE WINDOW AT 1 WORLD TRADE CENTER

09:16:06 HAVE UN BUILDING EVACUATED FORTHWITH

09:16:55 ALL MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS---TO BE EVACUATED

09:17:20 MC STS HE CAN'T GET OUT---1 WORLD TRADE CENTER

09:17:39 MC STS ON 105 FLR...STAIRS COLLAPSE

09:19:16 EMPIRE STATE BUILDING IS BEING EVACUATED

09:19:20 120 PEOPLE TRAPPED ON 106TH FL A LOT OF SMOKE NOT SEEING FIRE...CAN'T GO DOWN OR UP THE STAIRS

The screen then reported a desperate scramble to nowhere.

09:19:58 EVACUATION TO THE TOP FLR OF WORLD TRADE CENTER

Trapped

The calls scrolled on and on.

09:21:31 FC STS THEY ARE IN STAIRWAY C...ON 82ND FLR...STS DRS ARE LOCKED AT LOC...STS NEED SOMEONE TO OPEN DOOR

09:23:05 MC STS HES ON 84 FLR---NUMBER 2 TOWER---CAN'T BREATHE---CALLER DISCONNECTED.

09:23:28 FC STS SHE SAW PERSON IN THE BUILDING. THE PERSON IS WAVING

09:24:54 MC STS STAIRWAY COLLASPE ON 105 FLR

09:25:28 MC...STS TRAPPED IN ROOM ON 103 FLR...STS DOORS ARE HOT

09:27:33 FC DIANA STS HUSBAND FRIEND TONY IS STILL ALIVE ON THE 101 FLR

09:28:42 FC STS SOMEONE WAVING A WHT FLAG 1ST BLDG THAT WAS HIT---10 FLR DOWN FRM THE TOP

09:32:14 2 WORLD TRADE---105 FLR---PEOPLE TRAPPED---OPEN ROOF TO GAIN ACCESS.

09:36:33 FC STS THEY ARE STUCK IN THE ELEVATOR...STS THEY ARE DYING.

The screen reported the approach of an airplane.

09:37:35 AIRCRAFT IS MILITARY

09:38:52 MC COSGROVE STS CALLED BEFORE STS HE NEEDS HELP STS CANT FIND STAIRCASE TO GET OUT OF LOC STS PEOPLE NEED HELP ON 105 FLR

09:39:25 MILITARY AIRCRAFT--- ENFORCING NO FLY ZONE

09:40:45 MC STS PEOPLE PASSING OUT

09:42:04 PEOPLE STILL JUMPING OFF THE TOWER

09:39:40 FC MELISSA STS FLR VERY HOT NO DOOR STS SHE'S GOING (TO) DIE...STILL ON PHONE...WANT TO CALL MOTHER

More people trapped, more people jumping, and then a first hint of what was to come.

09:47:15 FC STS 2 WORLD TRADE CENTER---FLR 105---STS FLOOR UNDERNEATH HER ---COLLAPSE

The screen scrolled on.

09:47:23 ML WAVING JACKET...ML JUST JUMPED

09:49:21 1 WORLD TRADE CTR...20 PEOPLE ON THE TOP WAVING...THEY ARE ALIVE PLEASE SEND HELP

09:54:36 ANOTHER CALL CAN HEAR PEOPLE CRYING...NO VOICE CONTACT

Then came another hint.

09:55:28 2 WTC---106 FLR---105 FLR CRUMBLING

The screen kept scrolling, mixing calls with official reports.

09:54:21 MC STS ON 93 FLR 30 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM---STS SMOKE IS GETTING WORSE

09:56:22 PENTAGON IN WASHINGTON HAS BEEN STRUCK BY AIRPLANE

A Rumbling Roar

One woman called from Duane St., saying she had seen the planes hit and noticed white particles that had been falling along with the jumpers.

O9:59:03 FC CONCERN ABOUT RESPIRATORY EFFECTS OF THOSE PARTICLES

10:00:22 ANY UNIFORM PERSONNEL TO BATTERY PARK CITY...ELECTION DETAIL UNITS RESPONDING.

10:00:33 MC STS SON CALLED---ON FLR 93---STS IN THE SECOND TOWER THAT WAS HIT---STS SMOKE IS GETTING WORSE

Twelve seconds later there was a rumbling roar.

10:00 AM: The World Trade Center has collapsed.

10:00:45 WORLD TRADE CENTER HAS COLLAPSED.

All calls from the south tower suddenly ceased with a notation.

CALL DISCONNECTED

A message came from an EMS unit.

10:07:54 TRAPPED BUILDING FELL ON THEM

A police report flashed on the screen.

10:10:31 NUMEROUS (OFFICERS) IN BLDG THAT JUST COLLAPSED--PERSONNEL TRAPPED IN BASEMENT...PEOPLE IN THE RUBBLE

The calls from the north tower continued; people trapped, people jumping.

10:12:35 MC STS HE CAN BARELY BREATHE...105TH FLR

The sister of a former Xavier High School football star called.

Paramedics rush an injured woman from the scene.

10:16:02 FC STS HER BROTHER IS IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER 104 FLR---STS NO ONE HAS COME FOR HIM YET

Then, came a series of warnings.

10:26:34 DOES APPEAR THAT TOP OF TOWER POSS LEANING AT THIS TIME---AIR SEA #14---IS BUCKLING---LEANING TO SW

10:29:25 NORTH TOWER IS LEANING

10:31:18 N TOWER POSS GETTING READY TO FALL

10:32:56 NORTH TOWER COLLAPSING

10:33:29 SECOND BUILDING CAME DOWN

10:33:42 ENTIRE TOWER DOWN

The calls from the second tower ceased with another rumbling roar. Incident No. 0727 ended with reports of the surviving EMS teams aiding the few survivors of what had first flashed on the screen just like a kitchen

138 posted on 11/01/2001 10:36:04 AM PST by vannrox
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To: Diogenesis
Truly, one of the worst pictures from WTC. One can very easily imagine the desperation of the victims. I don't like this picture but we should see it and remember it.
139 posted on 11/01/2001 10:46:53 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: vannrox
This Is 1 of the finest post's I have seen from you in the short time I have been here . Pay no mind to the faint hearted , they dont have a clue . You did a public service in my opinion . FReegards !
140 posted on 11/01/2001 10:47:40 AM PST by Ben Bolt
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