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Jerusalem's Dome of the Rock is Hate Speech in Stone; Its removal Urgent
myself | 11-7-01 | myself

Posted on 11/07/2001 6:38:28 PM PST by crystalk

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To: Terrorista Nada
What's the difference between this situation and a Catholic church and an Islamic mosque being on the same block in New York City?

The wrong comparison, it should read:

What's the difference between this situation and the Moslems razing a Catholic church in New York City, in order to rid the world of this poluted religion, then building a mosque on the site so future generations would forget Catholic's ever existed. (Destroying all the other churches in NYC too)

Now you can answer the question.

62 posted on 11/08/2001 4:17:35 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Yehuda; crystalk
Temple Mount destruction

www.har-habayt.org

63 posted on 11/08/2001 4:25:38 AM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: one_particular_harbour
I appreciate when people reply to criticism with a curteous reply. I give you credit for that. I try to always let God do his own fighting, so I will not continue after this.

I am sure that I and others would be more apt to listen to your comments if you would not mock God and just blast evangelical christians when they blast others. I can also undertand why some people get mad at them for their views.Even though I believe they are right I have found it better to just pray for them then trying to shove my views down their throats. Noone likes being force feed.

64 posted on 11/08/2001 4:31:22 AM PST by winodog
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To: Ann Archy
The British Mandate, 1920-1946.

Under the terms of the Mandate, Britain's principal obligation was to facilitate the implementation of the Balfour Declaration of November 2, 1917, which pledged "the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people."(2) No territorial restrictions whatsoever - neither east nor west of the Jordan River were placed on the Jewish National Home. In fact, the Mandate stipulated that Britain was to "facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage close settlement by Jews on the land."(3)

You'll note a rather large Jewish homeland by modern standards,

Then, the British partition in 1946:

). In was only in 1946, 24 years later, that Britain unilaterally granted Transjordan its independence. (2) With Transjordan's independence, the British had partitioned Palestine and created an independent Palestine-Arab state.

And finally 1947 UN partition

On November 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the United Nations voted with a 2/3 majority to partition western Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state.(1) The Jews were to be granted what appears on the map in blue. Over 75% of the land allocated to the Jews was desert. Desperate to find a haven for the remnants of European Jewry after the Holocaust, the Jewish population accepted the plan which accorded them a diminished state. The Arabs, intent on preventing any Jewish entity in Palestine, rejected it.

And the 1949 armistice

>You'll note an Arab state on the West Bank did exist on paper at least for about 2 years before Jordan, not Israel, anexed it.

65 posted on 11/08/2001 4:33:14 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Ann Archy
Oops, forgot the Ottomans

Since the destruction of the Second Jewish Commonwealth(1) by the Romans, the land referred to as "Palestine"(2) had been ruled by a series of foreign occupiers. Each successive ruler subdivided his conquest as he saw fit, though none, since the Romans, considered "Palestine" as having a separate administrative or geographic entity.

The Ottoman Turks, who ruled this area from the year 1516 to 1917, regarded it as part of Southern Syria. The land later referred to as "Palestine" was divided into three separate districts.

The area was underpopulated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880's,(3) who came to rebuild the Jewish land. The country had remained "The Holy Land" in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people. Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants - both Jewish and Arab.

1. For the Second Temple period (332 BCE-70 CE), summary, see: Professor Menahem Stern, Israel Pocket Book Library, in "History Until 1880" (Jerusalem: Keter Books, 1973), pp.97-126.

2. The name "Palestine", from the Greek Palaistina, originally from the Hebrew Pleshet (Land of the Philistines): a small coastal strip north east of Egypt, also called Philistia. The Roman term "Syria Palaestina" in the 2nd century BCE referred to the southern third of the province of Syria, including the former Judea. The name "Palestine" was revived as an official title when the British were granted a mandate after World War I: Encyclopaedia Britannica ill, Micropaedia, vol. Vll, "Palestine."

3. Among the many descriptions of Palestine's desolation prior to the Zionist immigration: ". . . a desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds - a silent mournful expanse . . . A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action . . . We never saw a human being on the whole route . . . There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country:" Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad, or The New Pilgrim's Progress (1869).


67 posted on 11/08/2001 4:39:35 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Yehuda
Thank's for the bump.
68 posted on 11/08/2001 4:40:23 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Yehuda
Thank you for your #40 and #42. Well said.
70 posted on 11/08/2001 5:04:48 AM PST by malakhi
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To: crystalk
We do agree. I'm just careful with setting dates. Maranatha.
71 posted on 11/08/2001 5:58:36 AM PST by drstevej
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To: Jeremiah Jr
Speaking 'rebuilt temples'...

The First Hashemite Restoration, 1922-1924
The Contributions of King Abdullah I
The Second Hashemite Restoration, 1952-1964
The Emergency Restoration, 1969
The Third Hashemite Restoration, 1992-1994

72 posted on 11/08/2001 6:13:49 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: crystalk
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) I'd say there is definatly an ABOMINATION standing in the HOLY PLACE! It's just taken some us readers a little longer to understand.
73 posted on 11/08/2001 7:02:02 AM PST by Ldy4just
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To: drstevej
I never set any dates. But God did, many a time, and I think a special blessing is reserved for those of us that are mathematically inclined enough to pursue His footsteps.

Daniel may have been sealed in antiquity, but praise God, we are told it would be unsealed by us in modernity, when men would run to and fro and knowledge would be much increased. We who study will have insight into these things and reveal them to others, as here on the Net, are told we will "shine as a brightness in the night sky...as the stars for ever and ever."

The dates are given, and I just incidentally happened to mention this one here...maybe it was red herring in retrospect, but I know dozens of others....

74 posted on 11/08/2001 7:28:22 AM PST by crystalk
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To: Ldy4just
Thank you for your kind words.

Whoso readeth had damn well BETTER understand, now at least, or Islam is going to eat their you-know-whats for lunch!

Between me and Arafat and Osama ben Laden, we may succeed at awaking comatose Christendom. See, I AM an optimist! Let's see if the spiritually Dead can be Raised, and if so that will be a miracle of God in itself!

But someone has said, there is something about the prospect of being hanged at sunrise that concentrates the mind wonderfully.

That abom of des has been there 1310 years too long, and it is time we all knew it and did something about it.

75 posted on 11/08/2001 7:35:14 AM PST by crystalk
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To: Yehuda
Thank you so much Yehuda for helping me with my footnoting and educating of stragglers in what they should have learned at their mothers knee, or in Hebrew school at the age of 3, and now they are all up a tree, and Islam has caught them with their pants down for all to see!

PS Everybody read Daniel 11 and 12. Dammit, read the whole book of Daniel. Then go on to Ezekiel, and in the New Covenant, the Revelation of St John (who would have been high priest(Kohan Gadol) had he not been a follower of Jesus...) Then read Joel and every book of the Bible from Psalm 80 on.

Or just start at Genesis 1 and read it ALL.

76 posted on 11/08/2001 7:41:55 AM PST by crystalk
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To: one_particular_harbour
Of course Jesus was a Caucasian! He couldn't help it: so were his parents, Mary and Joseph! Would you feel better, or any different at all, if he had been a Sioux Indian or an Ituri Forest pygmy?

Why do you use the accidental fact that He was bodily a Caucasian, to scorn His message and those of us who believe in Him? Your screed is infantile and disgusting. If he had been of any other race, then no doubt you would have used THAT against Him too!

Muhammad and Moses, and for that matter Buddha, were also Caucasian, however, and so were Sophia and the Goddess, and Zeus and Apollo. So was Madeline Murray O'Hair, but she came to a bad end. So will you if you do not repent, and soon! Do you imagine the Muslims will give you any longer before they kill you upon their takeover, than they would give me, or a Jew? I think they will kill all you rank unbelievers (infidels) first, before they get to us people of the Book, mushrikeen or not!

77 posted on 11/08/2001 7:49:21 AM PST by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Have any FReepers ever been there. I was in Israel several years ago and our tour went to the Dome of the Rock. I got to the edge of the property and couldn't go on. There was such a heavy evil kind of forbiding feeling that came over me I just told the rest I would wait for them, several other tourists proceeded but came back and said they experienced the same thing. There was two times this happened to me while I was there. The other place was in the Old City in one area in particular, it wasn't quite as strong. I have experienced this at other times in my life but NEVER as strong as I did at the Dome.

Call it Discernment or whatever. It was evil. I still get chills when I think about it.

78 posted on 11/08/2001 8:12:40 AM PST by Texas Mom
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To: NC Conservative
There are so many signs of the last days, over and over. When that day comes all will be fulfilled.
79 posted on 11/08/2001 8:19:58 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: Texas Mom
Yes, Yes, to say the very least, you are right.

The Dome and any other works of the Mecca cult are enough to give any spiritual person, whose God is YHWH, the Willies, and in a major way. For that cult in the form that it now rears its ugly head, was founded in 622 ad by:

The Man of Sin, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power, with all deceivableness of unrighteousness unto those who are perishing, ...who will be sent strong delusion, that they should believe a Lie!"

"For we are not struggling against mere flesh and blood, but against Principalities of Evil, against demonic Powers, against the Ruler of the Darkness of this Present Age (ie Satan), and against EVIL SPIRITS IN THE INTERPLANETARY SPACES.

Oh, no now, I will be called a drama queen again, I will even have the UFO people on my tail now, as well as the muslims and the atheists.

80 posted on 11/08/2001 8:26:52 AM PST by crystalk
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