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Revealed: How Bungled US Raid Came Close To Disaster
The Guardian ^ | November 6, 2001 | Luke Harding, Julian Borger, Richard Norton-Taylor

Posted on 11/07/2001 9:14:46 PM PST by RoarNLion


                                                  Revealed: how bungled US raid
                                                  came close to disaster 

                                                  · Delta Force caught in ferocious Taliban ambush 
                                                  · Debacle prompted review of war tactics 

                                                  Luke Harding in Quetta, Julian Borger in Washington and
                                                  Richard Norton-Taylor
                                                  Tuesday November 6, 2001
                                                  The Guardian 

                                                  The Pentagon's only publicly announced commando raid on
                                                  Taliban positions, hailed as a success and beamed around the
                                                  world in video pictures hours later, actually went badly wrong,
                                                  seriously injuring American soldiers, sources in Pakistan said
                                                  yesterday. 

                                                  The debacle, which saw US Delta Force soldiers come under
                                                  intense fire from the Taliban, prompted a review of special forces
                                                  operations in Afghanistan and seems to have led to a delay in
                                                  similar behind-the-lines operations. 

                                                  The ferocity of the Taliban resistance caught US commandos
                                                  unawares and showed that 13 days of bombing had failed to
                                                  break the Taliban's morale. It sparked a debate in the Pentagon
                                                  on the advisability of such missions in the absence of clear
                                                  intelligence. 

                                                  Soon after the October 20 raid, the US switched its military
                                                  strategy, throwing its weight behind the opposition Northern
                                                  Alliance and relying on it to provide ground troops for the
                                                  campaign. 

                                                  The day after the raid the Pentagon hailed the operation a
                                                  success that proved that US forces could strike anywhere at
                                                  any time, in the manner of their choosing. 

                                                  But details provided to the Guardian by sources in Pakistan and
                                                  the US, together with American press reports, present a different
                                                  picture. 

                                                  · A raid by Delta Force commandos on a Kandahar compound of
                                                  the Taliban's leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, ran into heavy
                                                  resistance, causing serious casualties. One soldier's foot was
                                                  blown off. 

                                                  · A simultaneous raid by army rangers on a Kandahar airstrip
                                                  was carried out only after forward troops had checked that the
                                                  area was clear. It was mainly for the benefit of the cameras and
                                                  to boost the rangers' morale. 

                                                  · The fierce Taliban response to the Delta Force raid led to a
                                                  review of similar planned operations, and to questioning of the
                                                  leadership of the war's US commander, General Tommy Franks.

                                                  According to an authoritative and independent source in
                                                  constant touch with Kandahar, Delta Force commandos, the
                                                  most elite force in the US army, searched Mullah Omar's
                                                  compound but found it had been stripped of anything that might
                                                  provide useful intelligence. As they emerged they came under
                                                  intense fire, forcing them to retreat. The Taliban later retrieved
                                                  "an American foot", still in its boot. 

                                                  "There was a lot of blood," the source said. "The Taliban had
                                                  expected an attack. They were ready and waiting." 

                                                  During the raid a Chinook helicopter was badly damaged. The
                                                  Taliban later said they had shot it down and showed off a portion
                                                  of its landing gear. 

                                                  The account given to the Guardian was consistent with an article
                                                  in New Yorker magazine yesterday. The author, Seymour
                                                  Hersh, said 12 Delta commandos were wounded, three
                                                  seriously. He quoted a US military officer as saying that the
                                                  team found itself in "a tactical firefight and the Taliban had the
                                                  advantage". 

                                                  The commandos were forced to retreat to helicopters and
                                                  abandon one of the raid's objectives - the insertion of an
                                                  undercover team into the area, the New Yorker said. 

                                                  Delta Force is a primarily anti-terrorist unit based at Fort Bragg,
                                                  North Carolina. Its existence is never formally discussed, nor are
                                                  casualties. Its members are trained to attack with stealth in
                                                  small teams, but the Kandahar raid was a noisy production,
                                                  involving a back-up force of 200 rangers, AC-130 gunships and
                                                  100 Delta Force commandos. 

                                                  "The mission was laid on like General Motors coming to the
                                                  Afghan war, like we did in Vietnam," Mr Hersh said. At the same
                                                  time, a company of rangers parachuted on to a Kandahar airfield
                                                  in an operation portrayed the next day in dramatic TV footage.
                                                  But in his article, Mr Hersh said that before the drop, an army
                                                  pathfinder team had checked that the airfield was free of Taliban
                                                  forces. The raid was for the benefit of the cameras. 

                                                  On October 20, the speed and intensity of the Taliban response
                                                  at Mullah Omar's compound "scared the crap out of everyone", a
                                                  senior officer told the New Yorker, which reported that the
                                                  setback had triggered an inquiry into how such commando raids
                                                  were planned and executed by central command. 

                                                  Since military operations began on October 7 there has been
                                                  grumbling among the Pentagon's civilian leadership that Gen
                                                  Franks, an artillery officer, is too hidebound and too steeped in
                                                  US military doctrine and its reliance on overwhelming firepower,
                                                  to lead a special forces campaign requiring guile and stealth. 

                                                  Some senior officials want such operations to be run directly
                                                  from the Pentagon. 

                                                  Mr Hersh said yesterday he had been used by special forces
                                                  officers to signal their unhappiness about how the operation was
                                                  planned. 

                                                  "The reason I learned about it is [Delta Force] were upset about
                                                  what happened. This isn't the way you run Delta Force, you
                                                  can't have this kind of big-scale operation. And so they're
                                                  sending a message over the fence to the leadership." 

                                                  Gen Franks and the chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff,
                                                  General Richard Myers, both denied that the Taliban had
                                                  inflicted casualties on US forces. Gen Franks, who is based in
                                                  Tampa, Florida, said there were injuries during the operation, but
                                                  "we had no one wounded by enemy fire". 

                                                  The failure of the October 20 raid prompted senior British officers
                                                  to emphasise the importance of good intelli gence. They made it
                                                  clear they did not yet have it, and the post-mortem after the raid
                                                  has delayed repeat operations. 

                                                  "We need proper, joined-up, serious operations," a British
                                                  defence source said. 

                                                  But with better intelligence, further raids by small groups of
                                                  special forces are on the cards once more, almost certainly
                                                  involving British forces. 

                                                  Meanwhile, the Pentagon confirmed yesterday it was looking at
                                                  airfields in Tajikistan and other central Asian countries in the
                                                  search for land bases close to Afghanistan from which to launch
                                                  air support missions for the Northern Alliance. 

                                                  The alliance is said to be poised for major offensives on the
                                                  capital Kabul and Mazar-i-Sharif after carpet bombing by US
                                                  B-52s of the Taliban lines. 




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Its shameful and telling of the government and the media, that we have to go outside the country to learn the reality of this phony war. Soldiers sacrificing their lives and their body parts for the sake of lucrative oil drilling and transportation contracts, a lifetime of profits for America's big oil companies.

Sorry Bushies, this administration is just as corrupt as the one before it, and its propaganda machine is just as good if not better.

1 posted on 11/07/2001 9:14:46 PM PST by RoarNLion
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To: RoarNLion
You're dumb.
2 posted on 11/07/2001 9:21:07 PM PST by paul544
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To: RoarNLion
2 day old story reposted. The Guardian's picked up Seymour Hirsch's discredited piece - and reworked it.
3 posted on 11/07/2001 9:21:32 PM PST by ironman
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To: ironman
wonder if Seymour gets his sources from the Taliban
4 posted on 11/07/2001 9:23:18 PM PST by arielb
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To: RoarNLion
Just go away you nit-wit.
5 posted on 11/07/2001 9:24:42 PM PST by Theresa
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To: arielb
"wonder if Seymour gets his sources from the Taliban"

Obviously. Notice the lies, exaggerations and bull***t.

6 posted on 11/07/2001 9:25:48 PM PST by Theresa
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To: RoarNLion
Apparently you missed the news of 5000 American dead at the hands of terrorists. Do try to stay current.
7 posted on 11/07/2001 9:27:32 PM PST by Harp
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To: RoarNLion
You have been a member since 1997? I would have expected more out of you than this trash that his been proven to be exaggerated.
8 posted on 11/07/2001 9:30:27 PM PST by illbenice
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To: Theresa
This is not a new story and has been debunked already. The author from the new yorker could not even defend his story stateing in my terms not his. I am right the pentagon is not. Also know the New Yorker is famous for making crap up and is not read by many here in NYC.
9 posted on 11/07/2001 9:31:15 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: illbenice
Why? This is just another bitter Buchannan, Libertarian who is mad that they keep siding with losers.
10 posted on 11/07/2001 9:32:16 PM PST by paul544
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To: RoarNLion
"Phony" war. The bodies of five thousand people are rotting in bits and pieces below the rubble of the world trade center, and that is "phony" because it doesn't affect you. You aren't in danger, you aren't worried, you are able to rant in peace from the comfort of your Eur-Way recliner because you have let someone else bleed for you.

As you sip your Evian and contemplate the superiority of your life compared to the countless thousands who died September 11, realize this: the only thing "phony" here is your sense of self-importance. The rank stench of your smug moral righteousness is far more revolting than the honest, wretching smell of the decomposing bodies of the brave dead of New York, the Pentagon, the Post Office. The rest of us have already realized that your right to speak your opinion was bought by the military you so abhor, and we count it for nothing. We move on to collect the bodies of our dead; though dead, they speak more than eloquently than you, alive, ever could...

11 posted on 11/07/2001 9:33:03 PM PST by dandelion
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To: RoarNLion
Whatcha smokin' RoarNLion? Ever hear of Seymour Hersh? No?
13 posted on 11/07/2001 9:33:57 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: RoarNLion
Go look for your head (not that that would do any good if you found it), it may up your boot. Go back to DU where this crap would flush just fine in their toilet. It doesn't here.
14 posted on 11/07/2001 9:35:31 PM PST by jwh_Denver
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To: RoarNLion
This junk has been debunked all week......where have you been?
15 posted on 11/07/2001 9:37:54 PM PST by TheLion
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To: RoarNLion
Pure crap. When you use the name sources in this article it means "Taliban Propaganda". The Guardian Newspaper is to the left of Stalin and violently Anti American and for that matter violently anti Brit. The Guardian is as a rule simply a mouth piece for any extremly left wing or Anti American group in the world.

The following is a good guide to evaluating British Newpapers:

The London Daily Telegraph is read by people that think the world is run the way is was run a 100 years ago.

The London Times is read by the people that really run the world.

The Financial Times is read by the people that own the world.

The SUN is read by people that do not care whom runs the world, think they run the world or own the world as long as they have big TITS.

16 posted on 11/07/2001 9:41:59 PM PST by cpdiii
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This is my guess: if the resistance was so great, how did the special forces get to the choppers?? How could they have gotten off the ground with such a counter attack???

Not much of a counter attack if there are not choppers all over the ground?? Hummm?

17 posted on 11/07/2001 9:45:31 PM PST by Uglywhiteguy
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To: RoarNLion
I trust GWB with my life and more important would trust him alone with either of my daughters. One thing I do know, we don't have to worry about GWB being serviced by an intern while he is on the phone talking about our troops!

With people like you IT IS a wonder how this nation has remained free this long.

18 posted on 11/07/2001 9:45:35 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: RoarNLion
"Soldiers sacrificing their lives and their body parts for the sake of lucrative oil drilling and transportation contracts, a lifetime of profits for America's big oil companies."

Most asinine comment I've read in awhile.....Cheese, anyone?

19 posted on 11/07/2001 9:46:15 PM PST by yooper
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To: RoarNLion
The Guardian? You're joking. A total left wing, anti-American commie rag. If it's in the Guardian, you can disregard it.
20 posted on 11/07/2001 9:46:43 PM PST by garyhope
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