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Another one of your inevitably eruidite and eloquent posts, but I don't think you grapple with what a mainsteam Paleo actually believes on the key issues in America at this place and time. I don't think there is much division. But IMO, most of it is wrongheaded, and/or ugly. It is all about closing the gates, and stopping economic and demographic change. It is highly interventionist domestically, while of course being isolationtionist and autarkic with repect to issues beyond our shores. And even if successful politically (which it will never be), it is doomed to fail in actual application.
239 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:19 PM PST by Torie
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What is coming otherwise, the unified world state or something similar, is ugly. I don't think loyalty to the people one grew up with deserves such insults. If you live in New York or Los Angeles, the multicultural state is already your reality. But if you live elsewhere, it's something new and unsettling. In the past, our great hinterland insured that immigrants could be assimilated into a great, growing and vital American culture. Today, more and more of us are living in a multicultural world without borders and there is little guarantee that immigrants or even the native born will be assimilated to anything that past generations of Americans would recognize as American.

What's also unsettling is that the empire defines opposition to it as ugly and ignoble, while it devotes itself to increasing its own wealth and power. There is a hypocrisy there that pursues its own advantage in a mercenary fashion but demands that it be crowned with moral superiority at the same time.

I'd agree with you that alternative policies may not meet with success, but I marvel at how blind and stupid the empire can be. Imagine, now American conservatives have resurrected the philosophy of British imperialism -- as though we don't already know how that will end up.

We emphasize this or that fringe group and talk about how dangerous it is. Right now I suppose that's only natural. People are finding out that we are all a part of the same powerful, yet threatened, commercial country. We are all in the same boat now, sink or swim. But when this war is over we ought to give a little thought to where the country and the world as a whole are going and what is in store for us if we follow that path. Emphasis on this little dissenting faction, or condemnation of that small ideological group, ignores the question of just where the mainstream is headed.

Love them or hate them or just ignore them, movements like paleoconservatism are more important as responses to the mainstream and critiques of it, than as ideologies in their own right. Whatever happens to paleoconservatism, the dangers and deficiencies of globalization remain and we ignore them at our peril.

240 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:43 PM PST by x
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