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Writing History to Executive Order
New York Times ^ | November 16, 2001 | Richard Reeves

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:51 PM PST by Judge Parker

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To: mrsmith
Your reply to the Judge generally reflects my feelings on the pro side of this matter, but my FOI hairs on the back of my neck still stood up and tingled.

I think sometimes the making of the sausage is a messy business and often misunderstood by casual observers. I do believe that the sausage making should be revealed at a time after the sausage makers have retired. I think this would satisfy the history buffs and protect the current and future civil servants who are already reluctant to serve largely because of risky potential legal expenses. I hope I have chosen the proper stance because I hate for Mr. Bill to get away with anything more than he allready has.

21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:02 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Judge Parker
Bush is hiding the Clinton legacy from the American people. If America had any idea of what Clinton did during his presidency, the country would be HORROFIED!!!!

I don't think Bush did it just to be mean, but for the sanity of the people of this country, and as a leader, he was forced to.

Releasing info on 8 years of Clintonism could cause breakdowns, heart attack, massive protests, and general health and social problems all over the world.

The man had to do what the man had to do. What America already knows about Clinton has caused enough damage. Can you immagine if everyone knew everything ?????Clinton would be a man in hiding, with his friend and ally Bin.

22 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:12 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
PS....The WTC attack was schedualed for LAST year so Clinton could declare martial law and stay in the Whitehouse as our glorious leader forever.
"Them damn camal-humpin A-rabs never get anything right!"--Bill Clinton
23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:12 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
PS....Clinton quote tagged Top Secret. Not for public knowledge : George Bush
24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:13 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: LSJohn
I have no doubt that GW is a good and decent person. He certainly has managed to put together an administration of extremely capable heavyweights (from a management , if not a policy, perspective); my concern is that he may at times be out of his league in terms of experience -- time will tell on that one.

As I have said before, I have often wondered what GW's motivation for running for president was. He seems to lack the killer ambition that most recent candidates have had. I continue to harbor the suspicion that something happened during the Reagan-Bush I years that has brought the Bush family protective instinct out in full. What that something is I don't quite know, but I strongly suspect it has something to do with BCCI.

Now I guess that I can expect the usual charges of tin-foil. To those who make such charges I say, go do some research on the subject and see if you can honestly say that all questions related to the subject have been adequately answered.

25 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:18 PM PST by independentmind
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To: hapy
It worked. Welcome to Free Republic.
26 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:43 PM PST by annalex
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To: wirestripper
Free Republic is certainly the only place I could find someone else willing to put the Constitution of our founders above popular desires.

Something should be done about the secrecy of our huge, huge, Federal government.
Letting the Legislative branch intrude so dramatically into the Executive is not the answer. No way will the supreme Court uphold the PRA.
The beauty of an amendment is that it could apply to the Legislative Branch also, it is no accident that the Congress hasn't passed a law to expose their inner workings.
The only other Constitutional option I see is to have a standard for release so generous that a president would be impeached for fighting it and after Clinton, I don't much care for that option.

27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:50 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Judge Parker
Bttt!
28 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:56 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: prognostigaator
The war on diabolical creatures will continue once Bin Laden is caught, punished or eviserated .
That is a keeper!
How does one "slip" a slowly tightening noose?
Nothing like a good swift "snap o' the rope" is there?
No slipping that. Hangmen just ain't what they used to be.
31 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:24 PM PST by philman_36
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To: LSJohn
...snap me back to reality.
How funny...speaking of "snapping", look up one.
32 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:24 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Judge Parker
I thought Bush worked for me. According to my pay stub, though, on Mondays and Tuesdays, I work for him.
33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:25 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: philman_36
Not all "snaps" are the same. (Make mine ginger.)
34 posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:57 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: LSJohn
Make mine ginger.
Very well...

I always liked Mary Ann myself, though Tina was very pretty.
35 posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:59 PM PST by philman_36
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To: APBaer
The highest praise I can give Bush is that at least he was better than Gore.

These days, it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference!

36 posted on 11/16/2001 1:27:06 PM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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To: ratcat
I agree that it may well be concern over the Iran-Contra affair that prompted the order. Some of the people involved in that are again serving and more may be asked to serve. Release of any documents that may stir that hornets nest up would be a major distraction to the Bush presidency. For that reason alone I would totally understand their protective attitude. Remember that exec. orders can be and often are scrapped when a new admin. takes over. This one will fall by the wayside eventually but after living through that mess I hope not in my lifetime.

In my opinion the affair stemmed from a honest effort to do the right thing regardless some stupid legislation designed by the democrat controlled house and senate of the time. I nearly went to work for Ollie back then but was turned down because I was raising kids and had a wife to support. I wanted to help Reagan in his endevor. In fact I recieved thanks for my many efforts. My guess is that some of the documents that would be released would be letters sent to the white house with my name on them.The investigation that resulted was sour grapes by enemies both domesic and foreign and nearly destroyed a lot of people whose only crime was patriotism.

This was also the reason for the policies that tied the hands of the CIA and FBI regarding paying $ to known drug dealers and other bad types which just recenty played a part in our lack of intelligence. The result was our inability to stop the terrorist atack on the U.S.

In this man's opinion the masses can wait just a little longer for the story that the Reagan administation has never really told because of the selfless acts by many who worked hard to make this world a better place to live and their families. The same people who tried to destroy the Reagan legacy are still around and I for one don't want to revisit this chapter of the dumbest things a congress can do.

37 posted on 11/16/2001 2:04:38 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: concerned about politics
"I don't think Bush did it just to be mean"

CAP, I figure it's a "I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine." sort of deal. When the previous Bush administration left office, they wiped all their computers clean and Clinnton wouldn't even talk about it. "Two wings on the same bird of prey." Peace and love, George.

38 posted on 11/16/2001 2:41:01 PM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: ratcat
Whether true or not, I don't know. This was passed along to me. Sounds believable and I know North had an elaborate security system installed.

IT WAS 1987!

At a lecture the other day they played an old video of Lt. Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree. But what he said was stunning!! He was being drilled by some senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes I did sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't this just a little excessive?"

'No sir,' continued Ollie. "No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened sir."

'Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

'By a terrorist, sir.' Ollie answered.

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden sir." Ollie replied. At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued.

"Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of," Ollie answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well sir, if it were up to me, I would recommend that an assassinteam be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach and that was all that was shown of the clip.

39 posted on 11/16/2001 3:05:42 PM PST by lonestar
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To: lonestar
assassinteam= assassination team, of course.
40 posted on 11/16/2001 3:07:51 PM PST by lonestar
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