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Franklin Graham Calls Islam Evil Religion
NBC Nightly News ^ | 11/16/01 | NBC News

Posted on 11/16/2001 3:57:31 PM PST by Zorobabel

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To: billorites
Graham would not call Islam evil.
Au contraire.

One way to look it: Graham the elder appeared as "first among equals" with muslims, jews, and pagans in a polytheistic worship service. Graham the younger may remember something the elder forgot. There are things more important than getting a high-visibility pulpit.

41 posted on 11/16/2001 4:33:49 PM PST by TomSmedley
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To: kayak
"We're not attacking Islam but Islam has attacked us," Graham said. “The God of Islam is not the same God. He's not the Son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion.”

I agree with nearly everything he says...however since this is a country that guarentees freedom of religion...Bush is taking the wiser road in respecting this right.

The fact is most Muslims in this country, claim that their version of Islam is a religion of peace..and for us to tell them they must hate us and want to destroy us, because they are Muslims is unecessarily divisive and inflamatory. It serves no good purpose.

42 posted on 11/16/2001 4:34:01 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Alas
Ditto.
43 posted on 11/16/2001 4:34:48 PM PST by azhenfud
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To: Zorobabel
.........Roundtable Discussion followed the running of the original story.......

........on "News with Brian Williams".......this show follows Hardball.

44 posted on 11/16/2001 4:35:02 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: kayak
Note #38 - the beginnings of morally equating bible-believing Christians with extremists who want to annhiliate Jews and infidels. The day has come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine....
45 posted on 11/16/2001 4:35:06 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: crystalk
Son of America's Famous Evangelist Lashes Out at Islam

The Reality:

Christian leader finally has the courage to tell the truth about Islam.

46 posted on 11/16/2001 4:35:23 PM PST by razorbak
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To: Zorobabel
If this is true, he's doing no one any favors.

Idiot.

47 posted on 11/16/2001 4:35:59 PM PST by StoneColdGOP
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To: *Religion
Bump to religion list
48 posted on 11/16/2001 4:36:16 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: Governor StrangeReno
Anything that uses fear and exclusivity or dire consequences in my opinion is evil,that includes Grahams mob

Sounds like you fit your own definition.

49 posted on 11/16/2001 4:37:21 PM PST by razorbak
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To: ClayHellion
The war against western civilization (jihad) is already being waged by Islam around the world. We can either continue to be victims, or we can fight back and defeat their evil intentions. Franklin is absolutely correct: Allah is NOT God - Islam is a LIE straight out of hell.
Christians who truly care about the people living under the demonic oppression of Islam want to set them free - and only the Gospel Truth has that power. That is why Islam hates Christians. Liars always hate and fear truth-tellers.
50 posted on 11/16/2001 4:37:48 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Governor StrangeReno
Anything that uses fear and exclusivity or dire consequences in my opinion is evil,that includes Grahams mob.

Sweetie, if that is what you believe, then you ain't never seen evil.

51 posted on 11/16/2001 4:38:08 PM PST by history_matters
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To: IM2Phat4U
"I predict he will soon retract his statement".

I hope not, but even if he does, I will never retract my agreement with it.

52 posted on 11/16/2001 4:38:34 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: ClayHellion
There is a fundamental difference between the warfare of the Christian and the jihad of Islam. The weapon of jihad is the scimitar. The weapons of the Christian are spiritual. Christians should wage war against false religion with the truth.
53 posted on 11/16/2001 4:38:41 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Zorobabel
I saw this report also.
If one thinks Islam is peaceful, consider the treatment of those Christians in Indonesia, and consider the would-be fate of those Americans held in Afghanistan had there not been a war to intercede.
54 posted on 11/16/2001 4:39:54 PM PST by azhenfud
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To: TLBSHOW
What I have read about Sudanese Islamists murdering Christians would have no conflict with Graham's concerns. The peace loving Muslims need to deal with the murdering Muslims instead of pointing the finger at someone who says the murderers are evil.
55 posted on 11/16/2001 4:40:44 PM PST by kdf1
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To: Zorobabel
The Grahams have a history of over the top pronouncements that are then conviently air brushed out of the family history. I avoid them.
56 posted on 11/16/2001 4:41:02 PM PST by a history buff
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To: Zorobabel
I rarely watch a network broadcast but tonight I did see this piece. A couple of random thoughts:

(1) The report was not timely. Specifically it was presented at news tonight when in fact the statements were days (weeks?) old. Why bring it up tonight as "news"? It should have been in a more general discussion show.

(2) The network was clearly taking sides defending Islam and using Bush's statements as their "argument from authority". It's called bias, baby.

(3) The Koran's language quoted by Graham was not denied or refuted by the pro-Islam commentator. The Islam guy claimed Islam was peaceful. Bush claimed Islam was peaceful. Graham quoted from the Koran. Who you gonna believe?

(4) As a non-Christian watching the show I was more convinced by Graham. He seemed to have the facts on his side. The only possible objection I could find to his argument was not raised in the broadcast. The broadcast tried to use emotional approaches and logical fallacies to sway the audience.

(5) For those still reading ;-) my objection would note that there are people of many faiths who interpret their documents different ways--example, left-wing vs. right-wing Christians both claim to be using the Bible as a source. So it seemed possible to me that the Islam community could also have a rift of this sort--violent vs. non-violent, terrorist vs. non-terrorist. That would not get Islam off the hook exactly, but it would make the issue a bit more complex than Graham presented it.

(6) Bottom line--miserable, biased presenting of an issue that wasn't even "news" at all.
57 posted on 11/16/2001 4:41:22 PM PST by cgbg
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To: kayak
I'm very sorry, but the vast majority of Muslims (or rather, I should say the Muslim leaders) will have to convince me that their religion, or at least their immplimentation of it, is harmless. As it stands, in most nations where Islam is practised, Mr. Graham's remarks are sady true. Rather than chase these remarks around and around, Muslims in this country, and those that do not share the evil found in too many in this world, must stand up and depose of those who wish to fulfill the very words of Mr. Graham. I do not find his remarks as the best choice of words, however, I sure as heck understand the sentiments of it. It is slightly to much of a blanket statement, but it unfortunately applys to quite a few Muslim regions of the world. That is a truth far, far worse than anything any one can say of Islam, and if Muslim leaders and groups and whatever else wish to rectify things, they should not attack Mr. Graham, instead they should lash out against those that arbitrate his words. Those individuals are far more dangerous.
58 posted on 11/16/2001 4:41:59 PM PST by Cleburne
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To: anniegetyourgun
I've never known Billy Graham's message to be one of tolerance. After all, tolerance is such a low standard and certainly not what Christ taught for His followers.

Actually Christ was criticized for his tolerance because he openly associated and ate with publicans, harlots, tax collectors and Samaritans. The religious elites were offended that Jesus tolerated such people.

However Jesus was not tolerant when it came to compromising his message, calling sin, sin and letting false doctrines corrupt the Gospel message.

59 posted on 11/16/2001 4:42:13 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Zorobabel
I saw it, and the funny thing is everyone (Islamic and Journalists) siad that he was a nut and totally wrong. No one disputed the Koran...It clearly spells out violance against the Infidel. No one Islamic person has stated directly or indirectly that this is not true nor have they stated that it is not followed.

Is it is it not part of the KORAN? If it is then is this "law" ignored or preached?

60 posted on 11/16/2001 4:42:22 PM PST by wwjdn
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