Graham stands by comments on Islam

Charlotte Observer ^ | November 19, 2001 | Ken Garfield

[TopQuark]

Re #105 etc. You show real grace under fire; very thoughtful and measured reponses, which are a pleasure to read. In this country, we tend to bunch peoples together rather simplistically, and many do not understand that, although Turkey is a Muslim country, it differs widely from the Muslim Middle East. I am sure that your posts help.

[TopQuark]

The ultimate Reformer Christ Jesus will cast Islam into the Pit along with it's master.

My, my. And who are you to speak for Him?

[WRhine]

The press spends more time attacking and brow-beating an evangelical Christian than they do concerning themselves with what they should - exposing Islam and the persecution and death this Islamicism

BTTT

[TopQuark]

Well put! Bump.

[a_Turk]

In this country, we tend to bunch peoples together rather simplistically

Thanks bro, but don't feel bad as ignorant people do that everywhere...

[KQQL]

Go read your book again, you my freind live in a allah's fantasy. Islam is a lie, because no God has 72 virgins and little boys waiting for anyone in any paradise to have sexual orgies.
No God who is real allows 4 wives at a time? Oh yea, don't forget the Koran allows a man to beat his 4 wives if they don't behave.
These are facts in the Koran, the hadith and Mohammad's life.

[a_Turk]

what goes around, comes around.

That's what this is don't you know.

First those ignorant bastards do the WTC so other assh*les can congratulate each other, and now these guys, who are just as ignorant but not as bloodthirsty have got their excuse to act out their fanaticism.

It'll just have to burn itself out I guess.

[a_Turk]

Go read your book again

Take your own advice lady.

[One4Indictment]

I'm finished with being politically correct. Let them pass laws, arrest, convict, and imprison me.

God bless you, my brother. I believe the time is very near that Christians in this nation will be subject to just that kind of persecution. But praise God that we have the promise in his Word that "he who endures to the end shall be saved."-Matthew 24:13

That word, "endure", suggests to me that there is going to be some pressing trials and tribulations that Christians will face.

[lds23]

The mullahs' silence speaks volumes. Why are they not denouncing the evil acts of 9/11. Or all the evil done throughout muslim countries in the name of allah?

Why is the press so quick to denounce Catholics and Christians, but do not even ask any questions of muslims?

[jo6pac]

and now these guys, who are just as ignorant but not as bloodthirsty have got their excuse to act out their fanaticism.

Don't write em off so easily. Given the right environment, they could make OBL look like a moderate. Women used to be burned at the stake here for being religiously incorrect.

[KQQL]

By the way, Islam regards Jews and Christians as suspect deserving no credence. Also, allah is not Jehovah but he was a moon god from 7th Century Arabia, which is reason Cresent moon is used by Islamic nations on their falgs, mosques etc.

[a_Turk]

The Moon and Star reflecting on a Field of Blood sister!



The horns of the bull have always been a fertility symbol throughout the ancient middle east. If you paid attention, you'd have noticed that the "moon" atop a mosque always points upward. The theories of your teachers are flawed. Their feeble attempt at propaganda is flawed... Those are the remnants of another religion. Similar to your rabbit eggs during Easter.. You sound like a real scholar and are challenge enough, but why not call your teachers to this forum?

[KQQL]

Who cares, go head worship your Moon god and enjoy your virgins.
I say to you..... What Ever and good luck with allah .

[CCWoody]

The ultimate Reformer Christ Jesus will cast Islam into the Pit along with it's master.

My, my. And who are you to speak for Him?

Are you about ready to cross swords with this Christian's views? Religious hatred is a bitch, hey? Stir it up against Moslems, and it spills over as some of the Jesus loving Christians are ready to tell others the son of God will take care of them.

Now I wonder who could be next, Catholics, Mormons, Jews?? What goes around, comes around. Religious hatred doesn't look so attractive after all does it?

I do not have to say anything for my Lord says it:

"Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father who is in Heaven. But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father who is in Heaven. "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth. I came not to send peace, but a sword.

That Jesus is Almighty God is beyond controversy:

And beyond controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.

And being found in the fashion of a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death--even the death of the cross. Therefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in Heaven and things on earth and things under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

You who deny that Jesus is the Christ, God in the flesh, will be rewarded for your hatred of God! I can tell you with absolute and perfect certainty that whether you want to or not, you will be on your face before Him and you will confess Him from the deepest part of your heart in great fear. It is merely your choice to do this now or later... It would be better for you to taste the joy inexpressible of the fellowship with the Lord than to taste the grapes of wrath.

[a_Turk]

You who deny that Jesus is the Christ, God in the flesh, will be rewarded for your hatred of God!

Stop this nonsence. What hatred? There's no hatred here.

[TopQuark]

Now I wonder who could be next, Catholics, Mormons, Jews?? What goes around, comes around.

You are right, and usually they are. I never met this type of person who, after discussion of some length, would not complain how Catholics are not "correctly" Christian and Mormons are, of course, not at all.

That's exactly the point: the religious narrowmindedness is ugly no matter whom it comes from --- a Muslim, a Jew, or a Christian.

[TopQuark]

and now these guys, who are just as ignorant but not as bloodthirsty have got their excuse to act out their fanaticism.

You are absolutely right, a_Turk. I just hope that, by calling a spade a spade, the rest of us show these fanatical people for what they are. The West have left this path some centuries ago. The main attrocities of the XX century were perpetrated not in the name of G-d but by socialists of various kinds. Our friend here, CCWoody, shows that the sentiment, unfortunately, is not entirely dead.