Patrick J. Buchanan: Mideast peace an illusion?

WorldNetDaily ^ | Tuesday, November 20, 2001 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[DentsRun]

Where you have Israel outnumbered by numerous multiples who want to destroy her, when you are not pro-Israel, then you are anti-Israel.

Unfortunately, a few people here are so pro-Israel they put her welfare ahead of America's, which to me is anti-American.

[Cacophonous]

Without American military aid, Israel could not compete in an arms race with the Arab nations. The Arabs would attack and Israel would likely need to defend itself with the means at its disposal.

Possibly/probably nuke...again, this doesn't bother me (and since we are talking about my "America first" policy and not someone else's, I get to call the shots). If Israel needs to defend itself with nukes, I am all for it. I wouldn't worry about an arms race...Israel, unlike the US, would attack swiftly and surely, before a race could develop.

But I would see nukes (or other WMD) as a last resort...I don't think the Israelis would have to dig that deep into their arsenal to beat the Arab terrorists. I think Saddam, bin Laden, and others of their ilks are nothing but cowards that would shrink at the sign of strength. But you could be right - I may be giving the Israelis more cojones than they actually have.

There is no question the ultimate blame lies on the shoulders of the Arabs, and that US interests lie with Israel. As Buchanan himself said, "The U.S. has a moral commitment - to guarantee the security and survival of the Israeli state." But the ultimate duty of US leaders is the survival and success of the US.

And you never answered my question about who on this forum has advocated the victory of Arab terrorists over Israel..is this your paranoia peeking through?

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Nonsense!

[brat]

I suspect that Pat is a lightening rod for the Capitalists-they know he's right but must silence him, even if it means taking everything he says out of context and outright lies. I admire him. He's not perfect but then....!

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Pat isn't an isolationist. He's a fair trader, like many of us Conservatives are. You have to be NUTS to believe in Free Trade given it's destruction to the US in it's infantesimal history.

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STOP! You'll confuse them with the facts! LOL

[Nimitz]

Re: your post #113

More profound words have not been written in these pages, let alone this thread. Well put.

[Nimitz]

Re: your post #114:

If this were true, I am certain you have in your records a screen print, a link, something, anything, to verify this assertion. Merely stating that someone else said it, and posting the source info, especially that source, is just so much poppycock. Puhleez.

[sakic]

How can I produce something that Pat's folks deleted? This means it didn't happen? That's the best you can do? Why didn't Pat sue for defamation if it wasn't true?

Prove to me that Jimmy Hoffa is dead.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Please tell me what soldiering Hitler did?

Hitler was a dispatch runner in WWI. Hitler received 5 medals one of which was the iron cross 1st class. Only two soldiers received that honor in WWI. Ironicly the captain that recommended Hitler for the iron cross was Jewish.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Actually it is true. However the that Buchanan for President '96 website was started by a fan and didn't start as an official campaign site. It morphed into one. Anyways on the original site were many links to news articles and essays that had absolutely zilch to do with Pat Buchanan. Not many politicians had websites in '96 nor did many have any understanding of how it all worked. Anyways the article in question has been posted several times on FreeRepublic as well. The poster spins it into something sinister. The Buchanan campaign was only dimly aware of what was on their "official" website. Things have changed quite a lot since 1996.

[Nimitz]

Weak. Sad and weak that you think that Pat has to enter into a dialogue of self defense with the likes of your kind. Let me see....humm....You are a murderer. Prove that you aren't. Do you get my point?

Why didn't Ronald Reagan sue the thousands of DEMONRATS that have accused him (alledgedly legitimately) of being involved in the Iran contra affair? Didn't they seek to impune his integrity? Anyone can say anything they want, it appears, with absolutely no facts to back it up as long as they are a scumbag democrat. The same rules do not apply to Republicans.

[sakic]

Post 132 is confirmation of what I stated earlier and it comes from a Pat supporter. Disregard him too and ask for proof. Talk about weak.

[Sabramerican]

The thing I find most strange about it, is the intrinsic inferiority complex it manifests. Jews are less then 3% of the US population- it implies that we Jews are either Supermen (in which case it would be smart to be on our side) or that Gentiles are easily manipulated mindless idiots (is that your opinion). Neither is true.

I'm not sure how you drew that conclusion from anything I've written. Perhaps you should be less paranoid.

We must be speaking different languages.

You see paranoia in my writing? You should look in the mirror.

Maybe you should read it again. Maybe I didn't make myself clear.

What I thought I wrote, was that all this garbage from your side about an "Amen corner" that influences American policy is paranoia considering the fact that Jews are an insignificant number in the population. If you believe this infinitesimal number can bend the 97% majority to it will....paranoia may be an appropriate description.

[Sabramerican]

And you never answered my question about who on this forum has advocated the victory of Arab terrorists over Israel..is this your paranoia peeking through?

There is that word again. Apropos to nothing I wrote.

[Cacophonous]

Your own words in #75:

Is joining the Arabs in their desire to destroy Israel a pro-US policy?

Since you refused to answer my question about who on this forum that would advocate this position, it reeks of paranoia. Rabid paranoia.

Noone would deny that is the Arabs' desire, but to think that there are those outside of the radical Arab community that would join them is not only irrational but points to a deluded sense of self-worth.

[Sabramerican]

I see your problem. You've gotten to the "P"'s and think you understand the term "paranoia" but you have yet to reach the "R"'s, so you don't understand a "rhetorical" question.

Good luck on the SAT's

[CommiesOut]

Corner bump.