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To: Cacophonous
cojones and wherewithal,

You don't get it.

Cojones yes, wherewithal is something else.

Without American military aid, Israel could not compete in an arms race with the Arab nations. The Arabs would attack and Israel would likely need to defend itself with the means at its disposal.

American aid, allows Israel to keep the potential war conventional. It is an American interest to do so.

Note this, if the Arabs were not bent on Israel's destruction, Israel would not need a dime of military aid. Civilian aid is already on the way out by agreement (bet you didn't know that).

I agree with you about the catch 22. American aid brings pressure on Israel which gives the Arabs hope of victory which requires a stronger Israel which requires American aid and on and on.

Put the blame where it belongs...on the Arabs. If they meant for peace, there would be peace and the US would need be only involved with Israel as a place Americans enjoy visiting.

I draw the conclusion you refer too by the inference from Buchanan and you that American support for Israel is not because of some sinister "amen Corner"(read Jewish) force manipulating the Congress.

118 posted on 11/20/2001 1:55:25 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican
is not because= is because
119 posted on 11/20/2001 1:57:40 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican
Without American military aid, Israel could not compete in an arms race with the Arab nations. The Arabs would attack and Israel would likely need to defend itself with the means at its disposal.

Possibly/probably nuke...again, this doesn't bother me (and since we are talking about my "America first" policy and not someone else's, I get to call the shots). If Israel needs to defend itself with nukes, I am all for it. I wouldn't worry about an arms race...Israel, unlike the US, would attack swiftly and surely, before a race could develop.

But I would see nukes (or other WMD) as a last resort...I don't think the Israelis would have to dig that deep into their arsenal to beat the Arab terrorists. I think Saddam, bin Laden, and others of their ilks are nothing but cowards that would shrink at the sign of strength. But you could be right - I may be giving the Israelis more cojones than they actually have.

There is no question the ultimate blame lies on the shoulders of the Arabs, and that US interests lie with Israel. As Buchanan himself said, "The U.S. has a moral commitment - to guarantee the security and survival of the Israeli state." But the ultimate duty of US leaders is the survival and success of the US.

And you never answered my question about who on this forum has advocated the victory of Arab terrorists over Israel..is this your paranoia peeking through?

122 posted on 11/20/2001 4:50:59 PM PST by Cacophonous
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