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I don't know if I'll make it or not. It's a long ways away. The People's Republic of Ferndale is one of the most left wing suburbs out there. Let's get a good turnout, and please, no 'militia' stuff. We all need to look presentable.

If Ferndale gets this through, it means that OTHER CITIES will follow. That's why this is important. Politics is local.

1 posted on 11/21/2001 8:11:44 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
I wish you guys well, but isn't Ferndale where Martin Mull used to have his show? Or was it Fernwood? (I'm only 25 and vaguely remember the show).

Here in Miami-Dade County, we are already prohibited from carrying in all local government buildings (that is, unless you serve on the County Commission). Private businesses, however, don't seem to have this problem. :-)

Go Get 'em Dan!

2 posted on 11/21/2001 8:19:37 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: Dan from Michigan
Can they legally do that? State/city laws do not supercede the US Constitution. All rights not mentioned in the US constitution are left to the States and the right to keep and bear arms certainly is mentioned in the US Constitution.

I have often wondered the legality of such things as this?

Does anyone have any incite into this?

It seems to me that a state cannot override the US Constitution and neither can a city...
6 posted on 11/21/2001 8:36:14 AM PST by RebelDawg
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To: Dan from Michigan
This is crazy. So the cities can host terrorists if they want to but not gun carrying (aka Oregon not complying with Homeland Defense). This is turning into Nazi land. What the heck is going on America?
8 posted on 11/21/2001 8:40:09 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Dan from Michigan
Here in Texas.... City, County , State and Federal buildings have always been off limits for CHL/CCW packing folks. But they are limited to goobermint functions such as Courts , tax offices etc etc......not just "city owned" ...... Now if the city owns the gazebo in the park or the public restroom's, the convention center, or even "Bob's Hardware" is leased from the city ......a law abidding citizen in Ferndale would be walking in a legal (illegal IMHO) minefield of potential gottcha's..............

The law is mere harrasment IMHO........ Good luck in your efforts Dan.... and Stay Safe !

9 posted on 11/21/2001 8:40:14 AM PST by Squantos
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To: Dan from Michigan
This is crazy. So the cities can host terrorists if they want to but not gun carrying ( aka Oregon not complying with Homeland Defense ). This is turning into Nazi land. What the heck is going on America?
10 posted on 11/21/2001 8:40:50 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Dan from Michigan
This army of one can be there. Fashionable Ferndale is a mere stone's throw from this Warren Freeper.
15 posted on 11/21/2001 8:54:50 AM PST by raygun
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To: Dan from Michigan
Does the wording of this "law" exempt LEO's? If not, things could get interesting in Ferndale.

Regards

17 posted on 11/21/2001 8:59:05 AM PST by Tinman
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To: Dan from Michigan
"If Ferndale gets this through, it means that OTHER CITIES will follow. That's why this is important. Politics is local."

Hardly - being that you yourself say Ferndale is one of the most-liberal suburbs there!

It's like all those few "college towns" during the Reagan years that declared themselves "nuclear-free zones"; the idea never spread past the very-few leftmost places that started it.

Scandals of antigun politicians and activists

18 posted on 11/21/2001 9:11:03 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Dan from Michigan
bttt
22 posted on 11/21/2001 10:16:49 AM PST by technochick99
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To: Dan from Michigan
bump
24 posted on 11/21/2001 12:05:55 PM PST by Hot Soup
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To: Dan from Michigan

26 posted on 11/21/2001 12:40:42 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: Dan from Michigan
Ferndale, I'm sorry to say, is where I moved when I first graduated from college and went to work for Chrysler - back when it was an AMERICAN company!
Ferndale's a blue-collar, lower-middle-class suburb whose government is run by a bunch of elitist liberals from the suburb-within-a-suburb of Pleasant Ridge, home to such "notables" as dimocrap Governor Jim Blanchard.
He's the guy who put together the Chrysler 'bailout' - or 'handout' depending on where your sympathies lie.
Nothing those silly pansies do would surprise me.
From Texas,
Freegards, Redbob
30 posted on 11/21/2001 6:59:46 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Dan from Michigan
MCRGO update--Ferndale bars CCW holders from public property!

The city council in Ferndale has passed a ban on possessing any weapon in a city owned building. If you live in that city you need to write the council and mayor expressing your displeasure at this.

MCRGO has already sent them a letter advising them that their ban is most likely illegal per Michigan law and promising further action if they don't repeal it or make any effort at enforcing it. Now we need your help.

We want that council meeting packed with an overflow crowd of law-abiding people who are upset that they can no longer use the library or access city services without surrendering their constitutional right to self-defense.

The meeting is Monday, November 26th at 7:30pm in the basement of City Hall. Ferndale city hall is located at 300 East Nine Mile Road Ferndale, Michigan 48220.

Spread the word and let's get a serious turn-out of well-dressed gun owners. If Ferndale gets away with this, many other municipalities will undoubtedly follow suit.

33 posted on 11/23/2001 8:27:17 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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BUMP - I will be there.
35 posted on 11/26/2001 6:30:45 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
Check out senate bill 1438- Sen Levin Michigan sec 1062 recall of DCM small arms sold to competition shooters. Semper-Fi Chopper 1.
36 posted on 11/26/2001 6:39:30 AM PST by chopper 1
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To: Dan from Michigan
BUMP!
39 posted on 11/26/2001 1:25:03 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: *bang_list
Well, here;s the latest. It looks like the bill was NOT passed before. We had about 25 people there which is a fairly good turnout for a little city council meeting.

Ross told them this. It's illegal, and if you pass it, we will sue. Some of the council members did not care much for hearing that as the look on their faces showed that. We also have a few members there as well. He also said it wasn't the CCW members that they need to worry about. One of our Ferndale members there asked the members to take the training course. One of our board members is Pat Alzady from Macomb County. She is a firearms instructor as well. She offered to train the council members for free.

We'll see what happens here and will keep a close look on upcoming events.

40 posted on 11/26/2001 5:34:52 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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