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Defense and War: A Biblical Perspective
Lew Rockwell ^ | 11/23/01 | Ron McKenzie

Posted on 11/23/2001 4:03:53 AM PST by Ada Coddington

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To: Demidog
These are snips from three separate articles about Osama. It certainly must make you rethink your assertion about Osama's (non) connection to the 1993 bombing of the WTC "and those folks do not have ties to bin Laden", doesn't it?

And how about my question in reply #70? What's your hunch?

81 posted on 11/23/2001 1:25:52 PM PST by Gumption
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To: Gumption
They are assertions which have no verifiable supporting evidence. And especially re: WTC 1993, there is virtually nothing to support the text at all.
82 posted on 11/23/2001 1:28:27 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Can you show me a source that says Osama had no connection to the 1993 WTC attack? Even one with no supporting evidence?

And you still haven't told me who could have perpetrated the attacks, and why it would be so helpful to our government to keep that person/group secret. Why would it be so important for the government to not let the truth out?

83 posted on 11/23/2001 1:51:34 PM PST by Gumption
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To: Ada Coddington
Luke 14:31-32

14:31 ,font color=red>Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

14:32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.

14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

This is a statement given more as a parable, if one reads the surrounding verses.

You had better be prepared to give up everything; that is what is being spoken of here.

84 posted on 11/23/2001 3:43:36 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Demidog; tex-oma
"I don't think my logic is faulty at all. Afghanistan asked for evidence which showed bin Laden was actually responsible. The administration refused and then claimed that such a request was proof that Afghanistan was "harboring" terrorists." - demidog.

"Not according to our government. Our government is saying "harboring" has to do with Afghanistan's refusal to turn ben Laden over to the United States on demand. Of course, the Afghanis seem to think that they should see the evidence first. Isn't that silly of them?" - tex-oma.

This whole argument you two are attempting to make is misleading at best since there never was an offer to turn Sammi over to us that was contingent upon us providing evidence. The Taliban said that if we provided them evidence and they found it compelling, they would turn him over to an Islamic court. Surely, you would not call that being responsive to our demands?

85 posted on 11/23/2001 3:50:10 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: nicmarlo
5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in every thing.

5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife [see] that she reverence [her] husband.

........Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

86 posted on 11/23/2001 4:23:22 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: nicmarlo
5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Hey nic, let's wait for the Feminazis to attack..........should be good.

87 posted on 11/23/2001 4:30:02 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: nicmarlo
They really like that "submit" stuff............let's dig in here and await them.............
88 posted on 11/23/2001 4:32:17 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Ada Coddington
Exxon Haliburton 1:7.Ye verily wherest thou slaltest be an oil pipeline shalt thou bomb the living stuffing out of recalcitrant regimes in the eyes of the board and we shall verily vex them with the Gods chosen people routine and pushest forwardeth seemingly pious rightous men who shall be in accordance with the boards divine plan of pipelines across Kosovo,Afghanistan and the Caucuses.
89 posted on 11/23/2001 4:35:59 PM PST by Governor StrangeReno
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To: tex-oma
Our government sent the Taliban 40 million bucks (our bucks) in March for humanitarian aid.

On 9-13th I e-mailed a bevy of peacenik websites and received personal letters from a handful that all started with this same talking point. The Robert Scheer(sp?) article it came from was deceptive and especially cruel given the timing. He has since apologized...but leftist rags still print his articles.

Here's some readily available info on the "Bush" donation to the "Afghani people." Be careful to check out those sources of your own.

Follow the links

90 posted on 11/23/2001 4:37:40 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Governor StrangeReno
(Coming out of the trenches)..........and this one is about "big oil" right?.............
91 posted on 11/23/2001 4:41:09 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Ada Coddington
Okay, Christian warmongers

Yeah......that's us..........

92 posted on 11/23/2001 4:46:30 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: He Rides A White Horse
the idea

had crossed my mind

93 posted on 11/23/2001 4:53:16 PM PST by Governor StrangeReno
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To: Governor StrangeReno
Hmmmmm....any action to block Arab aggression in the Gulf will ultimately be due to homegrown US oil 'Kings'................say tell me.............how do the fading fortunes of Arab oil magnates play into your theory.
94 posted on 11/23/2001 5:07:09 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Governor StrangeReno
.......or do you specialize in lies.
95 posted on 11/23/2001 5:07:54 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: invoman
>I believe that anyone who persistently denies that the modern Jews OWN all the land that God gave to Abraham is NOT SAVED, and is also and therefore the deliberate enemy of God AND His Christ.

Oh, Dear. Another one.

Click on my Profile to see the error of your ways.

96 posted on 11/23/2001 5:18:42 PM PST by LostTribe
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To: He Rides A White Horse
No my specialty is unanswered questions and an open mind
97 posted on 11/23/2001 5:21:50 PM PST by Governor StrangeReno
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To: Governor StrangeReno
Really?.............mine too.......we should make some headway this evening, I think.......
98 posted on 11/23/2001 5:25:19 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Ada Coddington
>>>Ron McKenzie is an economist in Christchurch, New Zealand. He is also a Presbyterian minister.

I hope he is a better economist than a biblical scholar, which he isn't. He simply doesn't know the Word. No nation following his "principles" would last long.

99 posted on 11/23/2001 5:44:26 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
I hope he is a better economist than a biblical scholar, which he isn't. He simply doesn't know the Word. No nation following his "principles" would last long.
100 posted on 11/23/2001 6:01:34 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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