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Anti-Islam Sign at Church in Idaho
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/daily/20011122/LocalNews/189152.shtml ^ | By Eryn Curfman

Posted on 11/23/2001 6:26:38 AM PST by wwjdn

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:21:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A sign outside a Wilder church stirred a flurry of controversy this week, causing passersby to complain about anti-Muslim sentiment.

The church

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God bless the Constitution and the USA...provided it doesn't speak the truth or go against anyone's values.

Freedom of speech...maybe, maybe not...

1 posted on 11/23/2001 6:26:38 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: wwjdn
The truth hurts ... but the Truth can heal.
2 posted on 11/23/2001 6:31:20 AM PST by AngrySpud
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To: wwjdn
Even the article in the paper enables the Word of God to get out - it will not come back void. Sometimes the media can be useful.
3 posted on 11/23/2001 6:32:01 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: wwjdn
FWIW, this is not "Breaking News" in any way, shape or form. Expect it to be removed from the BREAKING sidebar any minute now.

Yes, it is "freedom of speech," but it also is offensive to many, not because it is specifically "anti-Islam" but because one of the bedrock principles of our nation is that of freedom of religion and tolerance for other beliefs.

In fact you'll note that these are BOTH First Amendment issues.

This guy can't say whatever he wants--in fact, it's better that he do so, so that other people will understand what kind of "Church" it is that he's running there--but others are also free to say he's a bigot and an *asshole.

4 posted on 11/23/2001 6:32:30 AM PST by Illbay
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To: wwjdn
The sign, outside the Crossroads Assembly of God Church, states: "The spirit of Islam is the spirit of the antichrist."

Truth

5 posted on 11/23/2001 6:33:05 AM PST by Centurion2000
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To: wwjdn
"It really disturbed me," Paxton said. "I´m a religious person, but to put something like that up ... you are over the top."

What religion? The reporter doesn't ask. Sounds like the people who write letters to the editor of the local paper and say "I always vote Republican, but..." and then go on to complain about something that is part of the Republican party plank.

Although Houle does not practice any religion presently, she feels strongly that such a statement goes against Christian themes and is "hateful and hurtful.

This is just weird; she isn't religious but she's still a theologian.

Oh wait, I get it: Christian churches are bad and Christians are hateful - THAT's the message of this article.

6 posted on 11/23/2001 6:35:19 AM PST by ikka
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To: Illbay
Sounds to me like the guy has taken a close look at Islam. BTW, you ought take a close look at the telling little finger slip in paragraph four of your post.
7 posted on 11/23/2001 6:35:38 AM PST by atafak
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To: *Christian_list; *Religion
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8 posted on 11/23/2001 6:37:08 AM PST by Khepera
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To: wwjdn
"The spirit of Islam is the spirit of the antichrist."

It's true. Islam is against the teaching of Christ - hence "anti" Christ.
I don't see anything wrong with this. It's in the Holy Bible. He runs a Christian church!
Denying him this right would be like a "No Guns" sign at a gun show!!!

10 posted on 11/23/2001 6:40:00 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Illbay
Please see related article: Pollitically Correct
11 posted on 11/23/2001 6:41:12 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: Illbay
Read the New Testament guy. The pastor is repeating what the Spirit of God said through the apostle John.
12 posted on 11/23/2001 6:41:49 AM PST by Rodm
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To: ikka
The issue is Freedom of Speech!
13 posted on 11/23/2001 6:42:03 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: wwjdn
The word antichrist is not just a noun, but is also a verb. To be antichrist, a thing must simply be in opposition to Christ.

If the Quran teaches that Jesus Christ was the son of God and will come again, it is not antichrist.

If it does not believe this will come to pass, it is antichrist.

14 posted on 11/23/2001 6:42:58 AM PST by copycat
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"The spirit of Islam is the spirit of the antichrist."

Anyone who is upset by this should go look at some of the Islamic literature about the Jews. There was never a more hate filled religion.

15 posted on 11/23/2001 6:43:14 AM PST by FITZ
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I get a kick out of the mayor of the town scrambling to disassociate himself from the statement. Why did he feel the need to do so? Since when are politicians presumed to endorse any given view that someone in their jurisdiction might happen to express?

I'd like to know what the mayor meant by stating that the statement "is inappropriate." Inappropriate for whom? For a politician looking to be re-elected? Or is the mayor making some theological statement, based on his reading of the Bible and Koran? His analysis seems awfully weak, and basically amounts to a sappy "Christianity = love".

From what I read in the article, the pastor seems to have a good basis within his religion for making the statement. I therefore have no problem with him making it.

I'd point at that as a member of the Jewish religion, which like Islam does not accept the divinity of Jesus, my religion would presumably be subject to the same statement. This makes me no less willing to recognize the pastor's perfect right to make it.

16 posted on 11/23/2001 6:43:29 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Illbay
This guy can't say whatever he wants--

Yes, he can.

17 posted on 11/23/2001 6:43:35 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: wwjdn
"It is inappropriate. It doesn´t reflect the community, " B.S.! 90% of the people I talk to, which includes folks of every race, creed, and religion - since I live in LA, hate Islam. This PC crap is insidious, and I'm sick of Liberals telling us what WE think.
18 posted on 11/23/2001 6:44:15 AM PST by .308
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"The spirit of Islam is the spirit of the antichrist."

This message is true of Islam. They do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God. They say so.

Historic Christianity has held to the trinity from the foundation of the Church. The Apostle John held that those who denied the divinity of Christ were part of the spirit of antichrist which was already in the world in his day.

19 posted on 11/23/2001 6:44:20 AM PST by xzins
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To: copycat
And an adjective!
20 posted on 11/23/2001 6:45:40 AM PST by Senator Pardek
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