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IMF loans for Turkey transferred to the Israeli military industries[TURKEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED!]
Arabic News.com ^ | 11/24

Posted on 11/25/2001 6:00:24 PM PST by oxi-nato

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imf loans going for weapons insteade of its own citizens or to rescue their failing economy!

turkish priorities are wacked!

1 posted on 11/25/2001 6:00:24 PM PST by oxi-nato
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To: a_Turk
any response?
2 posted on 11/25/2001 6:01:41 PM PST by oxi-nato
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To: oxi-nato
Since we want Turkey to lead the outside military forces in Afghanistan, what's your objection to their upgrading their military equipment?
3 posted on 11/25/2001 6:04:01 PM PST by Restorer
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To: Restorer
using imf loans that were given to them to fix their failing economy!

i am not going to accept turkey with open arms because they are sending some troops to afghanistan!

they have some serious issues to fix before they should get any trust!

4 posted on 11/25/2001 6:14:28 PM PST by oxi-nato
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To: oxi-nato
Something tells me that Arab sources discussing Turk-Israeli cooperation probably aren't the most unbiased and reliable sources around.
5 posted on 11/25/2001 6:14:44 PM PST by John H K
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To: oxi-nato
I say Turkey is the best international friend the US has, and in my mind they can basically do no wrong.
6 posted on 11/25/2001 6:15:58 PM PST by The Duke
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ok, human rights have no value or meaning with you! why do you think turkey is having so much trouble joining the eu?

just about any nation can join the eu, but why is turkey having such difficulty?

7 posted on 11/25/2001 6:22:12 PM PST by oxi-nato
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To: The Duke
in my mind they can basically do no wrong.>>>

people like you cannot be trusted with a comment like that!

8 posted on 11/25/2001 6:27:03 PM PST by oxi-nato
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To: oxi-nato
I don't think the US has ANY ground to stand on with regard to human rights issues. Certainly we should get our own house in order before we go "fixing" Turkey like we "fixed" South Africa.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've heard of any nation other than the US incinerating children alive, as we did in Waco.

9 posted on 11/25/2001 6:28:37 PM PST by The Duke
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To: oxi-nato
BTW, don't look now, but your A-G-E-N-D-A is showing!
10 posted on 11/25/2001 6:29:17 PM PST by The Duke
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To: oxi-nato
Almost any unbiased observer will agree that Turkey, despite its problems, is far and away the Moslem country slosest to the standard we want all Moslem countries to move towards. So does it make sense to ostracize them?

Surely that would just encourage Muslim extramists throughout the world.

11 posted on 11/25/2001 6:32:42 PM PST by Restorer
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yet the u.s. is the first nation to go after china's human rights record!

yes, i agree the u.s. should fix its own house first!

the u.s. should admit they supported, armed and trained albanian islamic terrorists in the balkans, open investigations and punish those responsible before they should make their next move after the taliban is wiped out!

but will bush admit that? after all he signed an executive order back in june using u.s. airborne troops to rescue albanian terrorists in macedonia!

yes, i agree the u.s. should clean its house first!

12 posted on 11/25/2001 6:34:48 PM PST by oxi-nato
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To: Restorer
turkey won't even admit to the armenian genocide!

why should turkey get any respect?

13 posted on 11/25/2001 6:35:57 PM PST by oxi-nato
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To: Restorer
remember, the u.s. supported iraq during the iraq/iran war. that done us a lot of good!

the u.s. gave weapons to afghanistan terrorists to fight the soviets with and now are in the hands of the taliban. that does us a lot of good!

the u.s. armed, trained and supported albanian terrorists and now they are the sole culprits to the problems in the region including macedonia. that done us a lot of good!

the point is the u.s. should be careful of who they support today because today's friend could be tomorrow's enemy!

14 posted on 11/25/2001 6:45:17 PM PST by oxi-nato
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oxi-nato is a person embittered because of US and NATO involvement in Bosnia and Kosovo. He'll tell you that the Sarayevans were shelling and raping their own people to trick the world into sympathy. He's been bred to hate Turks, and the Capitalist world, and now is like fish out of water living in the West yet bitching about it. He better watch his mouth, as anti terror measures in the USA allow apprehension w/o arraignment for 60 days now!

The USA, Israel and Turkey are set for yet another military excercise in the Eastern Mediterranean dubbed "Reliant Mermaid IV," set to happen the 2nd week of December. The Arabs, Persians, and oxy's Ortho brethren in the Balkans are seething.

Gotto love it.
15 posted on 11/25/2001 6:49:05 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: oxi-nato
A proposition - change the title! For instance, for TURKEY SHOULD BE PRAISED!
16 posted on 11/25/2001 6:55:29 PM PST by Neophyte
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Reliant Mermaid? I'd like to meet her.

Here's a statement from January 17, 2001:

On January 17, 2001, the United States, Israeli and Turkish navies combined in their third annual joint naval operation. The cooperative exercise, code named Reliant Mermaid III, consisted of search-and-rescue drills [ ;) ], and involved both war-ships and planes. One of the objectives of the exercise for Israel was to strengthen its military relationship with Turkey. In the event that a Middle East war becomes imminent, the location of the exercise, off the coast of Haifa, could serve to dissuade surrounding countries from attacking Israel. A result, much of the Arab world, most notably Syria and Iran, has denounced the operation, claiming that the United States is assisting in the organization of a new power axis in the Middle East.

For Turkey, the exercise had two main goals. The most immediate goal, of course, is improving and advancing its naval field training. But Turkey is also eager to prove to the United States that it deserves American economic and military support. For the United States, the Reliant Mermaid exercise conveyed the signal to Russia, Iran, Iraq and Syria that the U.S. 6th naval fleet in the Middle East is not to be underestimated.

Due to scheduling errors, Jordan was unable to observe the exercises, as they have in previous years.

17 posted on 11/25/2001 6:59:37 PM PST by Shermy
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To: oxi-nato
Something tells me that if the money went, let's say, to a Yugoslav or, for that matter, any NON-Israeli firm, you wouldn't have any objections and wouldn't all the sudden apear an Amnesty Intl whiner...
18 posted on 11/25/2001 7:00:06 PM PST by Neophyte
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To: oxi-nato
Well, actually the US also (unofficially) supported Iraq during the war with Iran. Considering the Iranian hostage-taking and other hostile actions, this made a lot of sense, at the time.

I agree that we should be careful who we support.

However, future possibilities should not blind us to the fact that we have enemies today who we need to deal with. This theory, carried to a logical extreme, would have prevented us from allying with the Soviet Union to defeat Germany. If such had been the case, there is little doubt the Nazis would have destroyed Russia, leaving us to face a Germany with all the resources of Eurasia and the Middle East.

Not a good idea.

19 posted on 11/25/2001 7:06:02 PM PST by Restorer
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To: a_Turk
Here's some carping Greeks from 1996 or so for your reading pleasure:

THE TURKISH-ISRAELI AXIS, GREECE, AND THE MIDDLE EAST

Here's the article's first paragraph:

"In February 1996, the Turkish Deputy Chief of Staff, Cevik Bir, secretly visited Israel and forged a military alliance with Shimon Peres. Unfortunately, instead of sounding the alarm, the Greeks failed to see that, in the "new" Middle East, the axis between Israel and Turkey is the most important political development in the region since the 1991 Gulf War. While the Greeks are building Holocaust memorials in Greece and restoring synagogues, Greek interests are trashed in the United States Congress by the unholy Turkish-Israeli collusion. While the Greek Americans, are awarding medals and honors to prominent American Jews, the Israelis are modernizing the Turkish armed forces.

Kind of logic one expects from the arab press. An "unholy alliance?" Sounds like an unholy alliance we should be part of. I think Russia might join in a bit too. That will really give them all a scare.

20 posted on 11/25/2001 7:09:00 PM PST by Shermy
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