JAMES WOOLSEY, CLINTON's CIA Director on Fox @ 7pm Pacific on Sept 11th/CLINTON

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[ALOHA RONNIE]

NEVER FORGET ..it's ALL IN GOD's PLAN, Bullish...

[Snow Bunny]

I have been very impressed with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld. I love the way Bush has a take no prisoners attitude about how he says......with us or for the terrorists.

After 8 miserable treasonous years with a draft dodger4 coward that loathed the military and never could eveb salute right, it is so good to have Bush for President and his respect for our military.

I think Bush will not only go after Osama but also Saddam and I am thrilled about it.

I also LOVE the way Rumsfeld handles the mdeia. I just love it so much.

Thanks ALOHA RONNIE

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...Moi, also... BIG TIME

[Snow Bunny]

I hate Hillary Clinton. yep and it is not against the law to hate her. So I am saying it loud and clear.

I am one woman that would never ever vote for not only a dem but also I would never vote for Hillary Clinton.

The ONLY women that would vote for her probably shave their chins in the morning and hate men. YUK!

Hi ALOHA RONNIE.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...Let's see now...

...With JAMES WOOLSEY now working for our U.S. State Dept BIG TIME going out of country and...

...With ..'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE...& YOUNG'.. Co-Author JOE GALLOWAY now working for our U.S. State Dept BIG TIME as Secretary COLIN POWELL's very own SpeechWriter...

...How can we possibly Miss...?

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...For More...

...please see my.. www.WeWereSoldiersFILM.com ..Message Board's.. -General Discussion- -Off Topic- Thread titled:

'September 11, 2001 ~ Another Day That Will Live in Infamy'

ALOHA

[Husker24]

Hillary is 100 times the threat to American democracy that the Soviet Union ever was. She is here, she has a core of support, and she is a master manipulator. She is married to the grand master manipulator. I cant even imagine the sheer evil and corruption that Hillary would bring at the helm. She must be stopped, she will run in 2004, she said she wont but we all know she will. The good news is, is that running for president wont be like running for Governer of New York, she will have to speak to the public and answer questions to the media and that could be her downfall. Whenever Hillary speaks she seems to piss a lot of people off.

[Concentrate]

Deserves a bttt.

[cardinal4]

You're right,I know they will never just fade away.They need to be put away.

[Mia T]

 

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compulsive clinton CYA-ing CONTINUES

Political Left Fingers clinton for Terrorists' Success

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[Mia T]

It's the TERRORISM, stupid

by Mia T, 11-22-01

 

It's the TERRORISM, stupid.

The clintons failed to understand this painfully obvious fact when they were 'legacy-building'...

or stuffing their campaign coffers...

or concocting their counterintuitive, postmodern, quite inane theory of nuclear safety.

The clintons' essential blunder was a failure to understand that mutually assured destruction (MAD) assumes, among other things, a certain symmetry, certain identity and, most important of all, the absence of madness...

 

Clinton's Failure to Confront Iraq

Allan J. Favish

 

 

Iraqi Complicity in the World Trade Center Bombing and

Beyond by Laurie Mylroie, which was published in June of this year and discusses the 1993 bombing of the WTC.

 

She explains how Bill Clinton intentionally failed to confront Iraq over its complicity in the bombing and other attacks.

 

She supported Clinton in 1992 having been an advisor on Iraq policy to the 1992 Clinton presidential campaign, as you can see at

http://admissions.geneseo.edu/cgi-bin/nrap?Roemer98.html

 

Her September 13, 2001 article in the Wall Street Journal on the recent attack is at

http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95001120

 

In a live interview on Los Angeles radio station KPFK, broadcast around noon today, PST, she stated that Clinton lied about more than sex; he lied about national security.

 

I wish somebody would ask her about whether she thinks the Clinton administration covered up Iraqi involvement in the murder of those aboard TWA 800 and ordered the military not to pursue the attackers.

 

Washington and the liberal media may be getting the message: George Bush is for real and he's no Mr. Nice Guy when it comes to war.

Even Newsweek's Howard Fineman, a liberal Bush-basher, has had to do a double take this week.

Writing in his column of an Oval office meeting with four U.S. Senators -- including Hillary Rodham -- Fineman described Bush "relaxed and in control."

Fineman, drawing a comparison with Winston Churchill's defiance during World War II, quoted the president as telling the Senators: "When I take action," he said, "I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive."

No doubt, Hillary must have shuddered when she heard that, a clear hit on her husband's eight years of appeasement with terrorists and their backers.

Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

[ASIDE: Have you noticed that as of the morning of 9-11-01, hillary clinton's "best memory" informs her--and she is quick to inform us -- that she was not "co-president" after all?]

Ex-CIA director blasts China policy

Woolsey likens strategy to failed 'appeasement' before WWII

"It's a legitimate end-use," says a Clinton administration official, who asked not to be identified. "Weather forecasting in the United States uses very intensive computing."

'Precedent Shattering': Administration OKs Supercomputer Sale to China

ABCNEWS.com, Published: 12/02/99, Author: David Ruppe

 

NEW YORK--A NewsMax.com/Zogby International poll finds that two-thirds of Americans want Congress to consider a second round of impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton for possibly swapping United States military secrets to China in exchange for campaign cash.

 

Americans overwhelmingly indicated they are seriously concerned that President Clinton may have authorized the sale and transfer of nuclear and ballistic missile technology to China. The national survey of 1,005 registered voters was conducted by NewsMax.com/Zogby last week...

Poll: Two-thirds of Americans Want New Impeachment Review

NewsMax.com

December 21, 1999

 

The Manchurian Candidate?

Or Being There?

 

by Mia T

 

 

The Republicans' latest talking point is that the breach of national security enabled by clinton-gore must be simple incompetence, that the concept that anyone in government would commit treason is too outrageous even to contemplate.

 

If the Republicans believe what they are saying, then they are morons.

If they don't believe what they are saying, then they are traitors.

 

Outrageousness is an essential element of clinton corruption. The clinton crimes -- perjury, obstruction of justice, abuse of power, rape, murder -- and now treason -- are so outrageous that they allow clinton hacks to reasonably brand all clinton accusers clinton-hating neo-Nazi crazies.

 

Yet privately few clintonites would deny that bill clinton facilitated China espionage. Their only question: "Why?"

 

Some call clinton a quisling, a Manchurian Candidate, bought off in Little Rock by Riady and company decades ago (and much too cheaply, according to his Chinese benefactors), trading our national security for his political power. This argument is persuasive but incomplete; clinton, a certifiable megalomaniac, is driven ultimately by his solipsistic, messianic world view and by that which ultimately quashes all else -- his toxic legacy.

 

William J. Broad suggests (Spying Isn't the Only Way to Learn About Nukes, The New York Times, May 30, 1999) that clinton had another reason to empower China and disembowel America. Broad argues that clinton sought to disseminate our atomic secrets proactively in order to implement his counterintuitive, postmodern, quite inane epistemological theory, namely, that, contrary to currently held dogma, knowledge is not power after all -- that, indeed, quite the contrary is the case.

 

Broad writes in part:

 

Since 1993, officials say, the Energy Department's "openness initiative"

has released at least 178 categories of atom secrets. By contrast, the

1980s saw two such actions. The unveilings have included no details of

specific weapons, like the W-88, a compact design Chinese spies are

suspected of having stolen from the weapons lab at Los Alamos, N.M. But

they include a slew of general secrets.

 

Its overview of the disclosures, "Restricted Data Declassification

Decisions," dated January 1999 and more than 140 pages long, lists such

things as how atom bombs can be boosted in power, key steps in making

hydrogen bombs, the minimum amount (8.8 pounds) of plutonium or uranium

fuel needed for an atom bomb and the maximum time it takes an exploding

atomic bomb to ignite an H-bomb's hydrogen fuel (100 millionths of a

second).

 

No grade-B physicist from any university could figure this stuff. It

took decades of experience gained at a cost of more than $400 billion.

 

The release of the secrets started as a high-stakes bet that openness

would lessen, not increase, the world's vulnerability to nuclear arms

and war. John Holum, who heads arms control at the State Department,

told Congress last year that the test ban "essentially eliminates" the

possibility of a renewed international race to develop new kinds of

nuclear arms.

 

And the devaluing of nuclear secrets, highlighted by the rush of atomic

declassifications, was seen as a prerequisite to the ban's achievement.

The symbolism alone was potent, officials say. Openness let them

advertise a dramatic new state of affairs where hidden actions were to

be kept to a minimum, replacing decades of secrecy and paranoia.

 

"The United States must stand as leader," O'Leary told a packed news

conference in December 1993 upon starting the process. "We are

declassifying the largest amount of information in the history of the

department."

 

Critics, however, say the former secrets are extremely valuable to

foreign powers intent on making nuclear headway. Gaffney, the former

Reagan official, disparaged the giveaway as "dangling goodies in front

of people to get them to sign up into our arms-control agenda."

 

Thomas B. Cochran, a senior scientist at the Natural Resources Defense

Council in Washington, a private group that has criticized the openness,

said the declassifications had swept away so many secrets that the

combination had laid bare the central mysteries.

 

"In terms of the phenomenology of nuclear weapons," Cochran said, "the

cat is out of the bag."

 

Even before the China scandal broke, experts outside the administration

faulted the openness as promoting the bomb's spread. Last year, a

bipartisan commission of nine military specialists led by former Defense

Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said the "extensive declassification" of

secrets had inadvertently aided the global spread of deadly weapons.

["inadvertently" ???!!!!]  

 

The ultimate brake on nuclear advances was to be the Comprehensive Test

Ban Treaty, which clinton began to push for as soon as he took office in

1993, hailing it as the hardest-fought, longest-sought prize in the

history of arms control.

 

Broad would have us believe we are watching "Being There" and not "The Manchurian Candidate." His argument is superficially appealing as most reasonable people would conclude that it requires the simplemindedness of a Chauncy Gardener (in "Being There") to reason that instructing China and a motley assortment of terrorist nations on how to beef up their atom bombs and how not to omit the "key steps" when building hydrogen bombs would somehow blunt and not stimulate their appetites for bigger and better bombs and a higher position in the power food chain...(or, alternatively, to fail to understand that the underlying premise of MAD (mutually assured destruction) is the absense of madness.)

 

But it is Broad's failure to fully connect the dots -- clinton 's wholesale release of atomic secrets, decades of Chinese money sluicing into clinton 's campaigns, clinton 's pushing of the test ban treaty, clinton 's concomitant sale of supercomputers, and clinton 's noxious legacy -- that blows his argument to smithereens and reduces his piece to just another desensitizing clinton apologia by The New York Times.

 

But even if clinton is a thoroughgoing (albeit postmodern) fool, China-gate is still treason. The strict liability Gump-ism, "Treason is as treason does"applies.

 

(The idea that an individual can be convicted of the crime of treason only if there is treasonous intent or mens rea runs contrary to the concept of strict liability crimes. That doctrine (Park v United States, (1974) 421 US 658,668) established the principle of 'strict liability' or 'liability without fault' in certain criminal cases, usually involving crimes which endanger the public welfare.)

 

Calling his position on the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty "an historic milestone" (if he must say so himself), clinton believed that if he could get China to sign it, he would go down in history as the savior of mankind. This was 11 August 1995.

 

According to James Risen and Jeff Gerth of The New York Times, "the legacy codes and the warhead data that goes with them" [-- apparently stolen from the Los Alamos weapons lab by scientist, Wen Ho Lee aided and abetted by bill clinton , hillary clinton , the late Ron Brown, Sandy Berger, Hazel O'Leary, Janet Reno, Eric Holder and others in the clinton administration (not to mention congressional clinton accomplices Glenn, Daschle, Bumpers, Harkin, Boxer, Feinstein, Lantos, Levin. Lautenberg, Torricelli et al.) --] "could be particularly valuable for a country, like China, that has signed onto the nuclear test ban treaty and relies solely on computer simulations to upgrade and maintain its nuclear arsenal [especially when combined with the supercomputers that clinton sold to China to help them finish the job]. The legacy codes are now used to maintain the American nuclear arsenal through computer simulation.

 

Most of Lee's transfers occurred in 1994 and 1995, just before China signed the test ban treaty in 1996, according to American officials."

 

Few who have observed clinton would argue against the proposition that this legacy-obsessed megalomaniac would trade our legacy codes for a rehabilitated legacy in a Monica minute and to hell with "the children."

 

 

[Mia T]

 

 

 

 

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NY househunting for AR felons

 

by Mia T

 

 

 

In my view, "Newgate" would be the perfect home for the clintons.

Erected in rural country ("pleasant, airy, and salubrious," as Thomas Eddy called the site in his 1801 book), Newgate was located about two miles above City Hall in what is now Greenwich Village. (Selling point: Hillary-as-Giuliani-irritant is inversely proportional to distance of clinton abode from City Hall.) Construction was begun in the summer of 1796 and finished in late 1797.

 

On four acres overlooking the Hudson River, the Doric-style building was of two stories with a cupola, surrounded by a stone wall ranging from 14 to 23 feet high. It contained 54 12-by-18-foot rooms designed for eight persons each; there were also 14 solitary cells, eight feet by six feet and 14-foot high, with windows eight feet from the floor, for a total capacity of 446 occupants. A large room for a chapel was set aside, as were living quarters for the keeper and his family. Another two-story building of brick, 200 feet long by 20 feet wide, contained the work-shops. There was also a garden "in excellent order," as Eddy wrote. 'The entire cost of the grounds, buildings, and a wharf on the river-front was $208,846. The first "residents" arrived Nov.28, 1797.

 

Caveat emptor!

The clintons would be wrong to automatically equate the creepingly leftist location and incipiently leftist penal code of New York's first state prison with suitability.

 

Although Newgate was the embodiment of a new, "more enlightened" penal code--prior to Newgate, 16 crimes were punishable by death in New York, including murder, rape, robbery, treason, burglary, the taking of goods from a church, forgery and counterfeiting--it must be emphasized that treason and murder were retained as capital offenses as were all other felonies, if committed a second time.

 

Truth-in-advertising compels me to disclose that Newgate no longer exists. But this small detail should pose absolutely no problem for the clintons and their promiscuous campaigns, all of which being, after all, mock documentaries about non-entities, the paradoxical personification of nothingness.

 

 

 

Up the River Means Downwardly Mobile

 

 by Mia T

Are you ready to SING, SING, SING

--doug from upland

 

Sing-Sing and the clintons would be a great fit, Newgate notwithstanding. Imagine the two grim, oranged-suited, arrogant mobsters, marching in silent lockstep, their proximity to the infamous death house and the electric chair causing them quotidian night sweats, (If it's good enough for Ricky Ray Rector. . .). Imagine their fear, their subjugation to overbearing authority (If it's good enough for Billy Dale. . .) All the stuff of Sing-Sing legend. . .

 

Sing-Sing (much like the clintons, themselves) was conceived as a profit-making if exploitive enterprise. It was located on the Silver Mine Farm, an abandoned 130-acre mining site on the banks of the Hudson River precisely because of its rich quarry which provided materials for the construction of the prison (built with prisoner labor) and future sales.

The clintons, who have several decades of experience turning prisons into profit-making enterprises--(BLOOD TRAIL NEWS ARCHIVES)--not to mention copious experience in fraudulent mining ventures--( Zairean quid pro quo)--will feel right at home in Sing-Sing.

[Mia T]

 

A Washington Post Expert's Pick on Terrorism and the Middle East

THE WAR AGAINST AMERICA

Saddam Hussein and the World Trade Center Attacks:
A Study of Revenge

(Previously Published as Study of Revenge)

By Laurie Mylroie
COAUTHOR OF THE #1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER
Saddam Hussein and the Crisis in the Gulf

With a foreword by former CIA Director R. James Woolsey,
and newly revised introduction and conclusion by the author.

Praise for THE WAR AGAINST AMERICA...

"Move over, Tom Clancy, Laurie Mylroie has written the year's thriller…. This splendid and wholly convincing book should form the basis for urgent Senate and House hearings to get to the bottom of the case."

-Richard Perle, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy

"After September 11 many, including myself, believe that the attacks may be the result of a partnership between the terrorists and a state with a sophisticated intelligence service and a program of biological warfare. If this proves to be true and Iraq is shown to be the terrorists' partners, there is no reason for anyone to ask, 'Why didn't someone warn us?' because Laurie Mylroie did."

-R. James Woolsey, former CIA Director

"Provocative and disturbing…argues powerfully that the shadowy mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing…was in fact an agent of Iraqi intelligence."

-Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense

48 posted on 11/26/01 10:15 PM Pacific by Spirit Of Truth

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[Mia T]

Clinton's Failure to Confront Iraq BUMP!

[Republic]

By Mia T:

The clintons' essential blunder was a failure to understand that mutually assured destruction (MAD) assumes, among other things, a certain symmetry, certain identity and, most important of all, the absence of madness...Yeah...and that absence of madness stuff is exactly what liberals cannot envision nor understand because of their goo-goo blinders. Imho-the clintons are, themselves, are mad as hatters (must have gotten this from your puppeteer graphic of poor Chelsea, so very lost in wonderland and victemized, brainwashed by her own sick parents) and therefore completely unable to recognize this defect in others. In fact, the 'madder' the folks are around um, the more the clinton's seem to assume an affinity for such individuals. Just take one LOOK at the sick administration they gathered (just think Reno) and you can see the pots and kettles all look alike.

[Republic]

Another Bump for "CLINTON 's FAILURE TO CONFRONT IRAQ" DO NOT MISS THIS

[Hannah]

Bill Clinton is a MURDERER. Bill Clinton has a lot of explaining to do WHY he was with Vincent Foster in that wooded area just North of the Whitehouse on July 20,1993.Explain yourself Clinton. Or I should say LIE once again.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...HOT OFF THE PRESS-es via.. www.Newsmax.com ..about JAMES WOOLSEY's TV Appearance on the FoX News Channel last night in its -Inside Cover- Article titled:

'WOOLSEY Probing Iraq Connection for BUSH Administration'

WE ARE NOT ALONE...Praise GOD

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...Former Congressman BOB DORNAN, who sat in on JAMES WOOLSEY's Confirmation Hearings for CIA Director in 1993 calling him CLINTON's Best Appointment, expands greatly about him in the last segment of his 1st Hour of today's.. www.TalkRadioNetwork.com / www.BobDornan.com ..Nationally Syndicated Talk Radio Show titled:

'Faith, Family, Freedom with BOB DORNAN'

...This Show also airs Live right now and Tape Delayed today ...througout America.

...Airing Tape Delayed in So. California @ 1-4pm Pacific Time on KPLS 830 AM 50,000 Watts Radio.

Like DORNAN ...WOOLSEY is JOHN WAYNE-Honest