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US to confront Saudi Arabia on financing terrorism [yet again]
Hindustan Times ^ | December 2, 2001 | PTI

Posted on 12/02/2001 2:06:59 PM PST by Shermy

The US is planning to confront Saudi Arabia with evidence that funds from the country are flowing to terrorist organisations.

Despite pressure from the US, the Saudi Government is believed to have done little to stanch the flow of funds to the al-Qaeda terrorist network.

Washington has till now not presented evidence to merit a crackdown but US diplomat Bill Burns would soon go to Saudi Arabia taking with him intelligence data linking some of the kingdom's leading money-men and charities to Osama bin Laden.

The data will include sensitive intercepts, human intelligence and wire transfers to back up American demands that Saudis freeze assets of suspected bin Laden financiers.

One Saudi in Burns' list cited by the Time magazine is wealthy businessman Yasin al-Qadi, who is alleged to have raised millions of dollars for a charity named by the US as a possible bin Laden front.

Al-Wadi has repeatedly protested his innocence and is challenging a freeze on his assets in a court in Britain. However, the US last week shipped to London a hefty package of intelligence data to strengthen the British case, American sources said.

Al-Qadi says his charity Blessed Relief has long been dormant, a contention echoed by a senior Saudi official. But the US sources say that intelligence shows movements of people, money and weapons to Muslim fighters in Bosnia financed by the charity as recently as 1999.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: yasinalqadi
As always, I recommend the Hindustan Times as a convenient and well designed news site.
1 posted on 12/02/2001 2:06:59 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Patria One; monkeyshine
fyi
2 posted on 12/02/2001 2:16:44 PM PST by meridia
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To: Shermy
Related links: Saudis refuse US request to freeze terror-linked accounts [Nov. 27 Hindustan Times (67 Posts)]

Saudis Balk at US Request to Freeze Bank Accounts [Nov. 27 NY Times (12 Posts)

Report: Turkey Freezes Saudi's Assets [Nov. 24 AP--mentions Mr. al-Qadi (5 posts)]

Facing the truth about the Saudis [Nov. 17 Boston Globe 112 posts]

3 posted on 12/02/2001 2:26:06 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
the families of the wtc dead and injured ought to sue the saudi families involved. period.
4 posted on 12/02/2001 2:29:29 PM PST by ken21
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To: Shermy
Oh and I am sure the Saudis are quaking in their sandles. Oh Oh here come the acursed Americans begging again. Get them out oh here.
5 posted on 12/02/2001 2:42:09 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: Shermy
Nov. 30, 2001 / 15 Kislev, 5762

Michelle Malkin

Banking on American stupidity

http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com -- SOME American banks just don't get it. Here we are, at war with deadly foreign terrorists who exploited our lax immigration policies, and what are these U.S. financial institutions doing? Making it easier for illegal immigrants to do business inside our borders.

Earlier this month, California-based banking giant Wells Fargo proudly publicized its plan to loosen identification guidelines for Mexican customers who want to open American checking or savings accounts. Banks usually require foreign customers to show passports as a primary form of ID, with credit cards and Social Security numbers or federal taxpayer ID numbers as backup documents. But now, as a result of heavy lobbying from the Mexican government and Hispanic-American activists, Wells Fargo will accept an ID card issued by Mexican consulate offices known as "matricula consular."

Any Mexican national living abroad (read: any illegal Mexican immigrant living in the U.S.) can get the card by simply supplying proof of Mexican citizenship, such as a birth certificate or voting card. No other secondary ID is needed if a Wells Fargo customer signs a residency form from the Internal Revenue Service - which emphasizes that it will not share the information with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

Not that clueless INS officials, who let Sept. 11 hijack ringleader Mohammed Atta and his visa-overstaying alien conspirators slip through their fingers, would do anything with the information, anyway. Tony Lew, an INS spokesman in Los Angeles, told the Los Angeles Times that the agency has no problem with Wells Fargo's new policy. "Our priorities are to go after illegal immigrants involved in committing crime," he said. "If they are law-abiding citizens, we don't have the resources to go looking for them."

Memo to the INS: Illegal aliens are, by definition, law-breaking criminals. Good grief. Will the INS ever learn? It's exactly this deaf, blind, and dumb culture toward illegal aliens that al Qaeda terrorists - several of whom worked with Hispanic immigration scam artists to obtain fake documents -- used to their bloody advantage.

Backed by the feds, bank officials eager to cash in on the huge illegal alien market -- and score a few P.C. brownie points - are pulling out all the stops to lower the bar for "undocumented" Mexican customers. "We welcome you to come to one of our branches," Wells Fargo Bank vice president John Murillo crowed at a Spanish-language news conference, "where we won't question your legal status."

Here are more bank officials to put that criminal-friendly welcome message in neon lights: "Wells Fargo does not focus at all on the legal status of our customers," California marketing manager Gari Helms told the Los Angeles Times. "Whether someone is legal or illegal is not for us to determine," Alice Perez, Hispanic marketing manager for US Bancorp, told the Chicago Daily Herald.

US Bancorp moved quickly to accept Mexican IDs following Wells Fargo's announcement. Also accepting the Mexican consular cards: Firstar banks, Harris Bank, Union Bank, and U.S. branches of the Puerto Rico-based Banco Popular. The American Banker newspaper reports that Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. is "actively looking into" loosening its ID policy for Mexicans.

Also following Wells Fargo's lead: local governments in California, such as Orange County and San Francisco, which will now accept the consular cards as identification so that illegal aliens jailed for "minor offenses" will not be deported.

And Mexico is only the first step. Wells Fargo has said it is open to accepting similar cards issued by other governments.

Once again, the convenience and comfort of illegal aliens overrides the safety and security of American citizens. You think Osama bin Laden and his America-hating followers around the world won't find a way to exploit this new brainless program, too? You can bank on it

6 posted on 12/02/2001 2:45:54 PM PST by expose
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To: Shermy
Time to give Jeddah, Mecca and Madinah to the Hashemite Throne in Jordan.
7 posted on 12/02/2001 4:32:41 PM PST by history_matters
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To: history_matters
By the Hindustani Times? LOLOLOL..

Like Bush or Cheney or Crown Prince Abdullah is listening to those twerps.

8 posted on 12/02/2001 4:36:41 PM PST by Patria One
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To: expose
Is this continued spamming why you got banned the first time?
9 posted on 12/02/2001 7:10:40 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Patria One

10 posted on 12/02/2001 7:18:30 PM PST by JeepInMazar
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To: Republican Wildcat
i am posted story big head
11 posted on 12/03/2001 2:16:38 PM PST by expose
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To: history_matters
Sort of like Israel was given to the Jewish refugees?
12 posted on 12/03/2001 2:20:31 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
No. The Hashemite King of Jordan was the Shariff of Mecca and Madinah until the House of Saud conquered them. Before capturing these cities the Saudi king was merely the King of the Nejd. Saddam Hussein used this as a carrot to draw Jordan to his side during the last war and to anger the Saudis.
13 posted on 12/03/2001 2:48:49 PM PST by history_matters
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To: expose
i am posted story big head

What does this mean?

14 posted on 12/03/2001 2:51:36 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Patria One
Like Bush or Cheney or Crown Prince Abdullah is listening to those twerps.

Now we all know you represent the little Pampered Prince here, but you don't speak for Bush and Cheney.

15 posted on 12/03/2001 2:54:46 PM PST by veronica
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To: history_matters
Are you aware of the first and second Saud dynasty?

If not, read how Abdulaziz Ibn Saud came boiling out of exile in Kuwait at the ripe age of 22 with 20 men and took Riyadh back in 1902.

16 posted on 12/03/2001 3:00:59 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Shermy
Isn't this the same Saudi Arabia that has about $100 billion tied up in US treasury bonds? Why can't we simply attach those, and cancel them, to pay for the damage caused to our economy on September 11?
17 posted on 12/03/2001 3:04:05 PM PST by crystalk
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To: veronica
You probably ought to read the bio of the man you call "little pampered prince". Like his father, he is 6'5" and educated, spent part of his youth with the Bedu to make him strong.
18 posted on 12/03/2001 3:05:46 PM PST by Patria One
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To: crystalk
Why don't you wait to find out who did it before you talk about taking their money. You may change your position altogether.
19 posted on 12/03/2001 3:06:53 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
Spent part of his youth with the Bedu to make him strong.

My I am so impressed. Really.

20 posted on 12/03/2001 3:13:05 PM PST by veronica
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To: Patria One
If not, read how Abdulaziz Ibn Saud came boiling out of exile in Kuwait

Lol. I feel slightly nauseous thinking about Sauds boiling out of Kuwait. Or boiling out of their suits, which probably makes it a blessing with those circus tents they wear. Now, if you're just talking about Sauds boiling, I'm quite agreeable ;)

21 posted on 12/03/2001 3:14:17 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: Patria One; crystalk
Why don't you wait to find out who did it before you talk about taking their money.

Do a search on Google for "Carlyle Group" and see what comes up.

VERRRRRY INTERRESTING.

22 posted on 12/03/2001 3:15:31 PM PST by Alouette
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To: crystalk
Ah in case you are wondering, Patria thinks someone other than Osama and his goons were the perps of 9-11. That theory flies in the face of Bush's war on terrorism and is based on nothing but a deep desire to cover for the Saudis and various other types who run with the Bedu to make themselves strong.
23 posted on 12/03/2001 3:16:20 PM PST by veronica
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To: history_matters
Diriyah is a key word that will help you with your history.
24 posted on 12/03/2001 3:23:05 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Shermy
The data will include sensitive intercepts, human intelligence and wire transfers to back up American demands that Saudis freeze assets of suspected bin Laden financiers.

The Saudi Muslim/Arabs are duplicitous SOBs.
The only useful result of this exercise is to give the Saudis the means to tell their terrorist surrogates how to be more careful about covering their money trail.

25 posted on 12/03/2001 3:23:38 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Alouette
I agree. Information about the Carlyle Group is very interesting in light of the diversity of their holdings.

I hope you will take some time to read about them.

26 posted on 12/03/2001 3:24:29 PM PST by Patria One
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To: veronica
OBL is a terrorist and he is not financed by the Saudis.

It has always fascinated me how the Israelis hate the Saudis so much particularly since the Saudis have spent the past 53 years ignoring them.

27 posted on 12/03/2001 3:28:43 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
Diriyah is a key word that will help you with your history.

PIRATE RULERS OF THE PIRATE STATE OF SO-CALLED SAUDI ARABIA

28 posted on 12/03/2001 3:29:33 PM PST by Alouette
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To: Patria One
I am not an Israeli I am an American and I think the Saudis have been less than honorable since 9-11.

I was particularly offended by that idiot character who went to NY and waved the check under Rudy's nose. And the Saudis may 'ignore' Israel in your estimation but they give aid and comfort to the Palestinians and pressured the USA on the matter, using 9-11 as leverage. Unseemly.

29 posted on 12/03/2001 3:33:34 PM PST by veronica
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To: Patria One
It has always fascinated me how the Israelis hate the Saudis so much particularly since the Saudis have spent the past 53 years ignoring them.

Makes total sense to me.
Saudi Arabia has financed terrorism under the table for decades, and Israel until recently has borne the brunt of it.
The only thing new is that now the rest of the world is beginning to notice the connection.

30 posted on 12/03/2001 3:33:49 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: veronica
Each of the brothers was planning to match it. Rudy turned down 70 million to make you happy.
31 posted on 12/03/2001 3:38:37 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Publius6961
Really? What are you CIA, or just a big mouth full of hate, prejudice, ignorance and desperation?
32 posted on 12/03/2001 3:40:04 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
Rudy turned down blood money from people who thought America could be bought. They were wrong.
33 posted on 12/03/2001 3:40:51 PM PST by veronica
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To: Patria One
Rudy turned down 70 million to make you happy.

No problem. Just get Red Cross to stop misappropriating funds to help out your terrorist friends and their dependents, and it'll probably make up that shortfall..

34 posted on 12/03/2001 3:42:19 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: history_matters
What happened to you?

Oh I know. You are busy doing research, aren't you?

35 posted on 12/03/2001 3:42:51 PM PST by Patria One
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To: veronica
people who thought America could be bought

Well, some probably can be. Few and far between, luckily :).

36 posted on 12/03/2001 3:44:04 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Hmmmm. I get your point. (-:
37 posted on 12/03/2001 3:45:30 PM PST by veronica
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To: Patria One
I think you are an Arab Muslim. Because you favor Muslims and Arabs over Americans.
38 posted on 12/03/2001 4:21:05 PM PST by Dengar01
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To: veronica
Generiosity in the face of disaster is not blood money unless it fails to jive with Israeli propaganda.
39 posted on 12/04/2001 3:04:42 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Dengar01
That's OK. YOu obviously aren't very bright.
40 posted on 12/04/2001 3:05:21 AM PST by Patria One
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