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To: Enemy Of The State
The question is not if Communism in the PRC will end....of course it will..it's inevitable. The question is will it implode as did the USSR..or explode, in a war against Taiwan or even India.......The old men who rule the country may decide to role the dice....
6 posted on 12/03/2001 1:56:38 PM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050
You asked the magic question there my friend.

There is a myth though that the China is 'one' or that the CCP is all of one mind.

9 posted on 12/03/2001 2:04:25 PM PST by super175
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To: ken5050
The question is will it implode as did the USSR..or explode, in a war against Taiwan or even India.......The old men who rule the country may decide to role the dice....

Considering the oversupply of males due to selective abortion of females, I'd say that war is very likely. Hopefully it will be one that stays within China's borders.

10 posted on 12/03/2001 2:08:46 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: ken5050
Americans must stand firm and hang tough in the defense of Taiwan (Free China). Taiwan is the very Soul of China. The mainland Communists are aware of this, so they have refrained from attacking Taiwan. Keep Free China Free: today, forever and always!
17 posted on 12/03/2001 2:22:45 PM PST by BrucefromMtVernon
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To: ken5050
--they have a lot invested into staying in power, both the PLA generals and the communist party heads. I am thinking more likely internal coup between those factions first.

Whenever there is any serious civilian revolt, both the leading power factions unite to squash them unmericifully. The tianemen revolt, then the falung gong movement show that.

Just the falun gong have (estimated) 150 million adherents and they are completely buffaloed, almost helpless to do anything but meet in secret now.

It would take a leading general to completely seize power in some province, and to be prepared to use full military force to stay in power in that region to even get it established-as to any "freedom" movement. That takes almost his entire officer corps to be in on it, and that's not likely to happen. The people themselves really can't do much, we've seen reports of mass riots involving thousands, they always get massacred, as soldiers follow orders, the orders they get are "waste 'em".

Nope, I think it's unlikely at this time.

As to "communism collapsing" in the soviet union, it's a scam, it was planned as a scam. They never really had communism, all they really ever had was fascism, and mostly it's the same old bozos still in charge. they claim poverty and are rolling out the road mobile topol m's as fast as possible. they claimed to adhere to the anti-biowarfare treaty and secretly had entire factory complexes turning out thousands of gallons. they still continue to dig in underground cities in the urals and elsewhere, and stockpile them for years underground. They still are arming all the regimes they used to arm. Putin recently took SLAVES from kim il dungeater in north korea as a payment for some jazz they bought.

I'ver seen all kinza folks say "look, they have their own islamic problems", double phooie, if they were having a "problem" to the extent that they claim and some believe, they wouldn't be selling advanced MISSILES and the tooling to make them to the islamics, would they? Or nuke tech to them either, but they are.

Sometime in the future (this decade probably) china and russia will zap the west. China wants to go west, scratch that NEEDS to go west for more oil and fresh water and arable land, russia wants europe, and they want the US neutralised at some point. Maybe not totally destroyed, just so neutralised as to never be a threat to them ever again. They will temporarily combine forces to pull this off, and then sort out their differences later. A temporary alliance of convenience. Both of them are sucking the west for all they can get right now. all these western businessmen investing into china are going to wake up with their assets nationalised, and with half the money they invested turned into a military advantage, assymetrically. China and russia both are creating the younger generation into ruthless predators. russia is using chechnya to build a blooded officer corps. they cut the size of their standing army two years ago, and at the same time they institutited total miliotia training for 15 year olds. they cut their land army budget to one third, and now have a land army potential 5 times bigger. China promotes aggression constantly, all their pronouncements and propoganda are telling their people they deserve more, and it's the wests fault they don't have it, and that they should get strong and go long to defeat the west. The latest most popular video in china, the wtc attacks, serious clueski there. Like- rhetorically speaking- what about this is hard to understand? It's not all domestic consumption, they are ruthless dictators, they fully intend to not only stay in power but expand. They will give japan one choice, 'with us, you'll be the big trading partner now and maybe we'll give you some oil" or be nuked into oblivion". They will tell india to stay neutral or the same thing. Russia and china both will tell india and japan that simultaneously, after the first salvos hit, and the first secreted backpacks go off. I just will not swallow what the chinese leadership or russian leadership say publically in english for the western press consumtion or what our "leaders" say publically, when the actions say otherwise, and all the actions are pointing toweards a war of agression sometime soon. The technique is age old, it's called "feign weakness" and also "feign friendship", then WHAMMO, cold cock, or as the cold warriors used to say a "a devastating first strike".

27 posted on 12/03/2001 2:42:48 PM PST by zog
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