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Black Democrats Push School Prayer
Newsmax ^ | 12/6/01

Posted on 12/06/2001 5:37:30 AM PST by truthandlife

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1 posted on 12/06/2001 5:37:30 AM PST by truthandlife
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While all of these proposals were drafted with an eye on U.S. Supreme Court decisions, one congressman believes the best way to avoid constitutional questions is to change the U.S. Constitution.

Much simpler to end government schools period. Give responsibility to parents, with it comes the freedom to pray or not as they choose.

2 posted on 12/06/2001 5:41:19 AM PST by Lysander
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To: Lysander; JHavard; Havoc; OLD REGGIE; Iowegian; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; the808bass...

3 posted on 12/06/2001 5:46:52 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Lysander
Much simpler to end government schools period.

Maybe but about as likely as you flying to Mars by flapping your arms.

5 posted on 12/06/2001 5:53:02 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: proud patriot
Why are these haters of America doing this? Somethign doesn't make sense here and I have to believe that what they really want is for people to pray to Allah.

So are you opposed to government school-sponsored prayer?
6 posted on 12/06/2001 5:55:19 AM PST by Dimensio
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As long as these Black Democrats are on a roll, here?
They rerally ought to push for the same thing to apply to their own party.
9 posted on 12/06/2001 6:03:11 AM PST by Landru
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To: proud patriot
Keep in mind that I also think that it should be the one true God and that isn't Allah!

Ah, okay, so you think that government run schools should make a statement on which religion is the "correct" religion?
10 posted on 12/06/2001 6:09:14 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: truthandlife
I think at this juncture in our history prayer and religion in the state schools would be opening a pandora's box.
11 posted on 12/06/2001 6:24:08 AM PST by Emmanual_Goldstein16
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Nice graphic!
13 posted on 12/06/2001 8:07:54 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: AppyPappy
Maybe but about as likely as you flying to Mars by flapping your arms.

It has been in the Republocrat platform since Reagan's first run to close the Department of Education in D.C. That would be a good start, maybe like me going to the moon in balloon?

14 posted on 12/06/2001 9:36:02 AM PST by Lysander
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Interesting that Muslims are allowed to pray to Allah in public schools, and Wiccans can do their things in classes...but not Christians.
15 posted on 12/06/2001 10:06:46 AM PST by Thorn11ACR-Jr
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i am glad to see black leadership looking for ways to improve the quality of life for blacks and all people in the united states. the liberals have done the blacks a great disservice. it is great to see others articulate conservative solutions to old prolems that have not been solved in the past 30 years by jesse jackson and the ilk.

now, if we could only get them to give up being democrates in all aspects of their lives.

16 posted on 12/06/2001 10:15:00 AM PST by mlocher
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i think at this juncture in our history, prayer and religion in the state schools would be opening a pandora's box

would you mind providing justification for this statement?

i see things differently. our public schools have taken a turn for the worst shortly after prayer was outlawed in public schools. and they continue to get worse year after year. drugs, violence, nea agendas, ritalin,..., are all sidetracking kids from learning. we threw god out ... it is time to invite him back in.

17 posted on 12/06/2001 10:21:56 AM PST by mlocher
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our public schools have taken a turn for the worst shortly after prayer was outlawed in public schools. and they continue to get worse year after year

This is very true.

What I don't understand about black people: so many are Democrats (and Democrats to me = immoral, liars, cheaters, low-lifes). Yet, you look, historically, to the black community. They are the ones, really, where so much (or all) of our religious music comes from: blues, gospel, soul, etc. And many are Baptists.

If you then compare to white people, and, in particular, those who are Baptists, I would say, percentage-wise, more whites are Republicans. Why is this?

I would think that black Democrats who are spiritual/religious, would be equally wanting to espouse the Republican view (I think the higher moral and ethical party).

And I'm not going to believe that it's just because they believe in all the social programs for which the Democrats are famous for pushing. (I'm a single parent and have appreciated help when my kids were were very young, from time to time. It's hard to go it alone sometimes; but I still have too much pride in myself to depend on handouts as a way of life.)

18 posted on 12/06/2001 5:05:03 PM PST by nicmarlo
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what i do not understand about black people: so many are democrats

you are corect. between 80 and 90 percent.

i perhaps naively view the black population as two societies in america: the drug/welfare culture and the working class. i interract with a lot of blacks on a daily basis from the working class. i agree with you, they are more religious in general than whites and they have strong family ties.

part of the reason they are so tight is racism. because they are victims of so much overt and covert stuff the family and church congregations provide a support structure. the welfare class is not as religious, perhaps has been made very dependent on the government and tend to espouse much racism themselves.

labor has historically been democratic. the working class votes that way. those dependent on government handouts do as well. as the working class gets more involved into white collar jobs, they will, and have vote more republican.

i still find blue collar many people, regardless of color, who vote democratic simply because "my dad has always voted democratic." momentum is not on our side.

unfortunately politics is not about religion. a majority of the people, again regardless of color, still believe in this separation of church and state dictum espoused by the aclu. so many people do not factor in spiritual issues when they vote, which is sad.

i do believe that black leadership is waking up to the fact that the government as held blacks back more any other force in society, and that is a good sign. go keyes and watts!

19 posted on 12/07/2001 4:19:41 AM PST by mlocher
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Holloway knew he would get little support from fellow Democrat legislators, some of whom told him they were "offended by the bill and feel it is unconstitutional."

I am offended by Democrats who are unconstitutional liberals that support perversion and corruption. (but that's my opinion)

20 posted on 12/07/2001 4:33:32 AM PST by wwjdn
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