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To: mlocher; truthandlife; Khepera
our public schools have taken a turn for the worst shortly after prayer was outlawed in public schools. and they continue to get worse year after year

This is very true.

What I don't understand about black people: so many are Democrats (and Democrats to me = immoral, liars, cheaters, low-lifes). Yet, you look, historically, to the black community. They are the ones, really, where so much (or all) of our religious music comes from: blues, gospel, soul, etc. And many are Baptists.

If you then compare to white people, and, in particular, those who are Baptists, I would say, percentage-wise, more whites are Republicans. Why is this?

I would think that black Democrats who are spiritual/religious, would be equally wanting to espouse the Republican view (I think the higher moral and ethical party).

And I'm not going to believe that it's just because they believe in all the social programs for which the Democrats are famous for pushing. (I'm a single parent and have appreciated help when my kids were were very young, from time to time. It's hard to go it alone sometimes; but I still have too much pride in myself to depend on handouts as a way of life.)

18 posted on 12/06/2001 5:05:03 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
what i do not understand about black people: so many are democrats

you are corect. between 80 and 90 percent.

i perhaps naively view the black population as two societies in america: the drug/welfare culture and the working class. i interract with a lot of blacks on a daily basis from the working class. i agree with you, they are more religious in general than whites and they have strong family ties.

part of the reason they are so tight is racism. because they are victims of so much overt and covert stuff the family and church congregations provide a support structure. the welfare class is not as religious, perhaps has been made very dependent on the government and tend to espouse much racism themselves.

labor has historically been democratic. the working class votes that way. those dependent on government handouts do as well. as the working class gets more involved into white collar jobs, they will, and have vote more republican.

i still find blue collar many people, regardless of color, who vote democratic simply because "my dad has always voted democratic." momentum is not on our side.

unfortunately politics is not about religion. a majority of the people, again regardless of color, still believe in this separation of church and state dictum espoused by the aclu. so many people do not factor in spiritual issues when they vote, which is sad.

i do believe that black leadership is waking up to the fact that the government as held blacks back more any other force in society, and that is a good sign. go keyes and watts!

19 posted on 12/07/2001 4:19:41 AM PST by mlocher
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