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Desperate search for Osama nukes
WorldNetDaily ^ | DECEMBER 7 | DEBKAfile

Posted on 12/07/2001 2:57:53 AM PST by Israel

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To: Israel
The special forces personnel operating in the region are attired in protective suits and carry equipment to counter threats from radiation and biological or chemical agents. It has been declared a no-go zone for journalists -- even those attached to the U.S. military.

Then why is Geraldo there? Another little detail that calls into question the veracity of the latest Debka article...

21 posted on 12/07/2001 10:01:55 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: TIGERCLAW
Dear Mr. or Ms. Tigerclaw:

Shouldn't you have been a member for more than one whole day before you release such a diatribe against your fellow Freepers?

Civility and maturity are honored character traits for a reason.

22 posted on 12/07/2001 10:03:00 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Israel
American armed forces in Afghanistan are in a race against the weather, too. The heavy snows expected around Dec. 10 to 12 will make their task almost impossible, forcing them to wait for the spring thaw.

Funny, the Weather Channel forecast for Kabul shows no inclement weather through December 13th. Granted, it can be different weather in the mountains, but one would expect at least some of the bad weather to drift into Kabul...

23 posted on 12/07/2001 10:06:44 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Israel; TIGERCLAW
At present, the edges of the area north of Kandahar are dusted with snow, and winter is raging in north, northwest and western Afghanistan, encumbering U.S. intelligence-gathering and air operations.

Gee, WeatherUnderground has a 2-day forecast for cities throughout Afghanistan, and I can't see a lick of winter weather anywhere. I call up a map of current conditions and all it shows is some rain in the far northeast part of the country. Herat and Farah, in the western part of the country where the winter weather is supposedly raging, show partly cloudy skies with projected highs from 55 to 65 degrees. So why is Debka lying about the weather?

Tigerclaw, you asked what qualifications I had to question Debka. You busted me, I guess - I an just a weather weenie who relies on the Weather Channel and WeatherUnderground websites to research Debka's claims. All I can do is call up a .pdf from WeatherUnderground that shows no sign of winter weather raging anywhere in the country, despite Debka's claims.

24 posted on 12/07/2001 10:17:02 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: TIGERCLAW; Israel
Here's the current satellite map from the Weather Channel:

and here's the forecast map:

Where's the raging winter weather????

Note to people coming to this thread after 12/7 - these maps will change over time, as the link is to the Weather Channel site, which will update these maps. At the time I posted this, there was no winter weather present.

25 posted on 12/07/2001 10:20:27 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Israel
At present, the edges of the area north of Kandahar are dusted with snow, and winter is raging in north, northwest and western Afghanistan, encumbering U.S. intelligence-gathering and air operations.

This should be the final nail in the coffin of Debka's credibility. THEY ARE FRIGGIN' LYING ABOUT THE WEATHER. A simple check of internet weather sites shows the current weather in Afghanistan is pretty good for this time of year, and there is little to no precipitation and little cloud cover. WHY ARE THEY LYING? WHY ARE THEY LYING?

26 posted on 12/07/2001 10:22:17 AM PST by dirtboy
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You gotta see this - Debka got busted lying about weather conditions in Afghanistan.
27 posted on 12/07/2001 10:24:04 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
Ping - Debka caught lying about the weather in Afghanistan.
28 posted on 12/07/2001 10:30:06 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: TigersEye; Osinski; dighton; lawdude; Incorrigible; FryingPan101; editor-surveyor; beekeeper...
ping - debka caught lying about the weather...
29 posted on 12/07/2001 10:35:50 AM PST by dirtboy
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Oh man. That's rich!

Next DEBKA will say that they were talking about the other Afghanistan, you know, the one up where it's snowing.

30 posted on 12/07/2001 10:37:51 AM PST by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Israel
Now, for comparison, here is the current U.S. Satellite map:

Now, the scale of this map is much broader, but you can still see that the current snow showers in mountains my home state of Colorado show up as a light purple color. Purple indicates precipitation. Yet, on the Afghanistan map, which is zoomed in more that the United States map, we see very little purple, and none in the areas where Debka claims that winter weather is currently raging - so that indicates that there are no mountain snows going on there like we currently have in Colorado. Once again, why is Debka lying about something so simple as the weather? Could it be that the urgency of their story falls apart without bad weather?

31 posted on 12/07/2001 10:40:06 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Thanks for the ping.

You know where you are with a complete liar, but when a chap mixes some truth with his yarns, you can’t trust a word he says.

-- Joyce Cary, The Horse's Mouth.

32 posted on 12/07/2001 10:48:00 AM PST by dighton
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To: dirtboy
Actually I've been posting here since September that Washington D.C. has more severe winters then the major cities of Afghanistan. I checked the climatological data for Afghanistan and found that Afghan winters are milder than the entire American Northeast. Not to mention the Plains states and Colorado Rockies. So much for those "brutally cold" Afghan winters that the media have been warning us about.

Granted, it is cold in the mountains. But no colder than the Rockies or the White Mountains up in New Hampshire.

33 posted on 12/07/2001 10:48:05 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: dirtboy
You are hysterical and irrational.
34 posted on 12/07/2001 10:53:01 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
No. He's being logical, providing information, and proving that DEBKA is lying.

That's quite different from being hysterical and irrational.

To be hysterical and irrational, he would have to not offer any information, nor any rational objections or data, and rely instead on insults and wild eye'd frothing at the mouth.

Like you did in your post.

35 posted on 12/07/2001 11:03:31 AM PST by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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Pretty Scary Stuff!
36 posted on 12/07/2001 11:10:38 AM PST by KLT
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To: tallhappy
You are hysterical and irrational.

Please explain how posting weather maps of Afghanistan that show no winter weather is hysterical and irrational. By your asinine comments here, you reveal that you have no interest in the truth when it inconveniences your beliefs...

37 posted on 12/07/2001 11:41:21 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
I think a better criticism would be that Ayman al-Zawahiri was probably killed the other day.
38 posted on 12/07/2001 11:41:53 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: SamAdams76
Granted, it is cold in the mountains. But no colder than the Rockies

Actually, for the most part I find winter in the Colorado Rockies far more comfortable than winter in Philadelphia - and I live in the mountains. It can be 20 degrees but I'm running around in a flannel shirt because the air is dry - not that miserable dank cold one gets back east...

39 posted on 12/07/2001 11:42:51 AM PST by dirtboy
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I think a better criticism would be that Ayman al-Zawahiri was probably killed the other day.

Look, DEBKA is lying. LYING. There is no winter weather raging in Afghanistan. Why do they need to lie? Do you think Debka has a shred of credibility left? If they lie about something as mundate as the weather, why should we believe anything else they say?

40 posted on 12/07/2001 11:44:12 AM PST by dirtboy
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