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Profits of Death (A Special FTW Series)--Part II
From the Wilderness Publications ^ | 12/11/2001 | Tom Flocco

Posted on 12/11/2001 9:57:28 AM PST by mancini

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1 posted on 12/11/2001 9:57:28 AM PST by mancini
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To: rdavis84; aristeides; LSJohn; It'salmosttolate; Sal; Landru; thinden; Uncle Bill
Part II

(I know I've missed some folks!)

2 posted on 12/11/2001 10:00:17 AM PST by mancini
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To: mancini
Part I
3 posted on 12/11/2001 10:17:13 AM PST by mancini
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To: mancini
Great Post! :-)

"Investigative journalist Tom Flocco also revealed dramatic new links to the growing mountain of evidence that puts the Central Intelligence Agency at the heart of America’s and the world’s financial markets.

There was this guy used to post on here went by the moniker Ndcorp ndcorupt, something like that, that started calling the CIA "Maggots" about 4-5 years ago. Well, he got banned over Mena, THe CIA has their own Hero Show, They've got a Dead Hero (not a sandwich) and folks still don't believe they're maggots.

What's a guy to do?

They're Maggots.

4 posted on 12/11/2001 10:21:24 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Yes, but now they're fighting this war with us, so they must be good guys again.
5 posted on 12/11/2001 10:28:16 AM PST by mancini
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"Yet Krongard has since risen to new heights, having received a March 16, 2001 Bush Administration promotion President George W, Bush to Executive Director, the number three position at the intelligence agency."

Let's see now, haven't things like this happened before? Probably only with Democrats though. They're responsible for 'bout everything "Bad" going on, aren't they?

Must be that guy Rubin's Fault, or maybe it's Greenspan's fault, or............

The highest placed maggots are Senile and trying to relive their Glory Days. The spawn that they produced came up short in many areas, but they put them in key positions anyway, after a good "Blueblood" education and membership in all the right "clubs".

But they're retarded anyway.

6 posted on 12/11/2001 10:41:49 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
bttt
7 posted on 12/11/2001 12:03:57 PM PST by mancini
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To: tex-oma; Judge Parker; independentmind; Askel5; betty boop; amom; BlueDogDemo
fyi
8 posted on 12/11/2001 12:26:36 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: rdavis84
You start quotin' that ndcorrupt guy folks are gonna think you're retarded.

Is paisano Flocco good, or what?

9 posted on 12/11/2001 12:28:45 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: philman_36; Architect
This kinda stuff interest you?

It's very well done.

10 posted on 12/11/2001 12:30:17 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: mancini; joanie-f; sonofliberty2; Donald Stone; KLT
"Heavy purchases of put options before a dramatic drop in a particular share price are clear-cut indicators of criminal activity based upon insider trading."

Say there...perhaps cousin Flocco has some insight as to why the FTC permits these kind of xactions in light of the above statement?

"According to a CIA press release, in February 1998, A.B. 'Buzzy' Krongard, former CEO of Deutschebank-Alex Brown (the nation’s oldest investment banking firm) and Vice Chairman of the Board of Bankers Trust, left BT and the investment banking community to join the CIA full time."

Now does this make any sense to anyone?
For Christ's sake; just what in the hell's wrong with that picture? Geehezzzz.
Is this nation & her intelliegence community that corrupt & that sick??
Because if we are; it can't be fixed. It's simply broke beyond repair.
But then there's this...

"Yet Krongard has since risen to new heights, having received a March 16, 2001 Bush Administration promotion President George W, Bush to Executive Director, the number three position at the intelligence agency."

It's really hard being a "good" American; I'm not sure what that even means.
Seems good has become synonomous with stupid & bad with successful?
Stoopid question, but...are/can any of these people be linked to the Chicom shenanigan(s) & BSchwartz of Loral?
The smell's getting mighty familiar since there ain't too much that can stink that bad.

What's almost worst of all?
Many of the facts, figures & sources are via, "The Associated Press," & folks?
That fact alone has me suspicious beyond belief.
Most intune people know damned well just *what* the AP is & represents.

...shazam; no way was Clinton going to be going anywhere, impeached or not. >doink<

11 posted on 12/11/2001 12:34:48 PM PST by Landru
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To: mancini
Neither Ingram nor his lawyer would comment or return calls. And no one has successfully interviewed the prosecutors regarding decisions which influenced what most would consider to be incredibly soft treatment, given the nature of the charges and what happened on September 11.

sounds like the old tried and true: "REASONS OF NATIONAL SECURITY" defense.

12 posted on 12/11/2001 12:42:17 PM PST by thinden
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To: Landru
"Is this nation & her intelliegence community that corrupt & that sick??
Because if we are; it can't be fixed. It's simply broke beyond repair."

You've got to have an open mind to see it, and most folks are afraid to answer that.

It CAN'T be fixed for the simple reason that was given to me, very proudly, "We ARE the Government!"

13 posted on 12/11/2001 12:42:41 PM PST by rdavis84
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/629380.asp

No evidence of bin Laden windfall

Frankfurt stock market says its data showed no trading irregularities

NBC NEWS AND WIRE REPORTS

Sept. 17 — Responding to news reports, a spokesman for the German stock exchange Sunday said an investigation had found no evidence that Osama bin Laden or others profited from advance knowledge about Tuesday's terror attacks through stock trades.

THE COMMENTS BY the spokesman for the Deutsche Bourse, the Frankfurt stock market, came after NBC News and newspapers in the United States and Europe reported that investigators were checking stock movements of three big European reinsurance companies to see if there were evidence that bin Laden reaped a financial windfall.

"The market supervision of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange has looked into the trading data of some stocks but didn't find any irregularities on the basis of this data," said the spokesman, who spoke with Reuters on condition of anonymity.

He said the investigators looked at share trading on Sept. 11, the day of the attack — which occurred at about 3 p.m. Frankfurt time. He declined to say which stocks were checked or whether other days were investigated.

NBC News reported Saturday that German officials had asked the FBI and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission to look into whether bin Laden's associates may have "sold short" stock in a Munich company that holds secondary insurance on the World Trade Center.

A report in the New York Times indicated that investigators were also checking whether airline stocks may have been sold short.

Short selling can produce huge profits when a stock plummets because of unanticipated bad news — unanticipated, that is, by all except those involved in a conspiracy to cause that bad news.

In a short sale, an investor would borrow a certain number of shares from a broker, immediately sell them, and then once the stock price had fallen, buy shares to return to the broker.

Those who reaped profits from the European short sales may have deposited their profits in American banks, giving U.S. law enforcement agencies jurisdiction.

The Italian newspaper Corriere della Serra reported Saturday that the FBI is looking into possible short selling of the stocks of reinsurance companies in the four trading days before the terrorist attacks on the United States on Tuesday. Reinsurance firms assume risk by providing backup insurance for insurance companies.

The stocks of the three reinsurance companies — AXA in France, Munich Re in Germany and Swiss Re in Switzerland — dropped 13 percent to 15 percent in the week before the attack.

Analysts suggested at the time that the drops were anomalous — unexplained — since the reinsurance business was healthy and premium payments were on the way up.

In fact, before the terrorist attacks, the Financial Times on Tuesday published a positive report on the industry.

Munich Re spokesman Rainer Kueppers said Sunday the legal department of his company knew nothing about an investigation by German authorities into suspicious trades in its shares.

At Swiss Re, spokesman Johann Thinnhof declined to comment.

In France, AXA officials couldn't immediately be reached for comment.

NBC's Robert Windrem and Andrea Mitchell and Reuters contributed to this story.

14 posted on 12/11/2001 12:48:54 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Yet Krongard has since risen to new heights, having received a March 16, 2001 Bush Administration promotion President George W, Bush to Executive Director, the number three position at the intelligence agency.

next stop? DCIA. (until this nasty little put option complication came up)

Krongard becomes the perfect man to replace George Tenet, one of a long list of "holdovers from the 2nd Xlinton dynasty".

Buzzy was groomed with that perfect blend of outside the beltway private "enterprise", a long term "friendly" relationship with the mob er...company er...whatever. plus he's had a little OJT wit the agency under his belt now.

15 posted on 12/11/2001 1:00:46 PM PST by thinden
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To: Landru
"According to a CIA press release, in February 1998, A.B. 'Buzzy' Krongard, former CEO of Deutschebank-Alex Brown (the nation’s oldest investment banking firm) and Vice Chairman of the Board of Bankers Trust, left BT and the investment banking community to join the CIA full time."

Now does this make any sense to anyone?

sure. the guy obviously needed the cut in pay.

16 posted on 12/11/2001 1:04:41 PM PST by thinden
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To: thinden
sounds like the old tried and true: "REASONS OF NATIONAL SECURITY" defense.

You would think that for as many times as that has been used, we would be the most secure nation on earth. So how come 9/11? DUH!

17 posted on 12/11/2001 1:40:29 PM PST by mancini
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To: mancini
btt
18 posted on 12/11/2001 2:00:34 PM PST by mancini
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To: mancini; Landru; rdavis84; LSJohn
But reporter John H. Berlin also made the ominous prediction that "their decision [to investigate] provided by far the most authoritative support for persistent rumors that the terrorists could have funded their next strike with huge [insider trading] profits from the [first] attacks." This seems an unlikely proposition since experts acknowledge that attacks of the magnitude of 9-11 take years to plan and perhaps millions of "up-front" dollars to finance.

Other motives, such as generating funds for covert operations by the CIA, have also not been ruled out. Nor has the possibility been excluded that Deutschebank, which handled key but unquestionably suspicious transactions, was generating money for itself by placing "put" options on United Airlines and then putting the profits back into its own tills -- perhaps to "prop up" poorly performing divisions at the global banking giant.

This last scenario is a possibility, given the fact that Deutschebank has been demonstrated in Part I of this series to have intelligence links that might have forewarned the bank of the attacks.

There is precedent for the "slush fund" theory, as Deutschebank’s U.S. affiliate, Bankers Trust (BT) pled guilty to it in March 1999. BT diverted $19.1 million from "unclaimed" funds to prop up profitability at other units, according to a May 30, 2001 New York Times report.

Even though there is absolutely no doubt that the name of the entity that placed the “unclaimed put option” trades exist in hard copy and electronic records, let’s take a minute to play the game by looking at the alternatives posted above:

1. terrorists could have funded their next strike with huge [insider trading] profits from the [first] attacks."

for a “high income private client” with insider knowledge of the 9/11 attack to buy put options would be like signing their own death warrant because they left a paper trail.

2. generating funds for covert operations by the CIA

Attempting to hide the proceeds of their winning put options in one of their “incubator” front companies may be possible, but picking up a few million bucks from insider trading on the 9/11 attack would be no more than chump change to an enterprise of this stature.

3. Deutschebank, was generating money for itself by placing "put" options on United Airlines and then putting the profits back into its own tills.

may be the most likely of the three stated scenarios. Accepting this premise would make Deutschebank guilty of criminal conspiracy to commit murder. Hardly worth it to the good international citizen.

Could Buzz or Ingram have given a heads up to an old banking buddy, intentionally or otherwise? Maybe getting warmer, here. especailly for Ingram who may become the designated patsy in this one.

Regardless, Deutschebank KNOWS WHO PLACED THE TRADES. somebody just needs to ask them.

19 posted on 12/11/2001 2:05:36 PM PST by thinden
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To: Landru
Some of this action involving Ingram is taking place in that same corridor in southeast Florida that stretches in a sraight line on I-95 from Vero Beach, FL. to Miami in which certain of the 9/11 terrorist were using this area as a training and staging area for their attacks.
20 posted on 12/11/2001 2:16:20 PM PST by Donald Stone
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