Military Surplus Demilitarization Bill is DEAD

Neal Knox ^ | December 12, 2001 | Neal Knox

[Tree of Liberty]

   Dec. 12 Neal Knox Update -- Sec. 1062 of the Defense Authorization bill, the provision allowing any "significant military weapon" -- including all guns ever owned by the U.S. Government -- to be recalled or ordered destroyed, has been completely removed by House-Senate Conference Negotiators.

    Yesterday, the chairman of the House Armed Service Committee, Bob Stump (R-Ariz.), called to say he "had fixed that."  I had told my wife that he would be calling, and the two items to ask him about if he called while I was out.  Not until nearly midnight did I learn that Bob had gotten it taken it out completely.  That's what I'd asked him to do nearly two months ago because Sec. 1062 was so bad it was unfixable.

    Most of the 51 members of the conference didn't see the bill, negotiated by only the chairman and ranking member of each house committee, until late yesterday.  They are expected to finish up any wrangling this week and vote early next week.  The contentious issue is a round of base closings, which has caused the long delay.

    Some of the near-hysterical hype that's been on the internet said the bill required destruction of former government arms, vehicles and planes.  But it would have allowed a future administration to do it -- I can't imagine this one issuing such an order.

      Now we've got to find out where within the Defense Department this scheme came from, for the second year in a row, and see to it that he or she is dismissed or transferred to Lower Soblovia.

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This is wonderful news! I first heard about it over at thefiringline.com

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BANG!

[VOA]

Some of the near-hysterical hype that's been on the internet said the bill required
destruction of former government arms, vehicles and planes. But it would have
allowed a future administration to do it -- I can't imagine this one issuing such an order.

Hype or not, anyone who loves World War II-era warbirds, M-1 Garand rifles, and the like,
should be concerned that such a MORONIC proposal saw the light of day.
AND be thankful that the concept got exposed in the patriotic fervor following 9-11.

Even if "hype", I was SHOCKED to see that at least one local television station in
my neighborhood in Southern California made SPECIFIC mention of this possible legislative
move AS A BAD THING when reporting on a military fly-over of WWII-era airplanes
for Pearl Harbor (Dec. 7) observances.
You could almost hear the sense of potential, tragic loss in the voice of the info-babe
doing the interviewing of a warbird owner talking about the legislative insanity.


When a California television news editor lets this sort of opinion get out onto MILLIONS
of television sets...I think there may be hope for this country!

[VOA]

Now we've got to find out where within the Defense Department this scheme came from,
for the second year in a row, and see to it that he or she is dismissed or transferred
to Lower Soblovia.

I think this sort of punishment is too lenient.
Breaking up historic patriotic ICONS such as WWII warbirds ranks with treason...in my book.
Guess that makes me an extremist. And maybe proud of it.

[Eagle Eye]

M-1 bumps.

(But the M-2 realy rocks!)

[pa_dweller]

It's good to find that that POS language is removed. I just hope our illustrious elected ones can find time to read the final draft before they sign off on it to make sure some unmentionable didn't stick it back in when no one was looking.

[TomGuy]

Now we've got to find out where within the Defense Department this scheme came from, for the second year in a row

Somebody sure wants the weapons destroyed...DoD? or Congress person/aide? Would be interesting to find out who keeps pushing the issue.

[chainsaw]

BTTT

[Tree of Liberty]

WWII warbirds ranks with treason...in my book.

Any attempt to divest free, law-abiding men of their arms or other property ranks as treason in mine.

[lelio]

Well you know the saying about give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Just like the Feinstein .50 cal bill that's going through congress still I think. Who needs one of those big guns? They're only used by skin heads to knock over armored trucks. Yada yada yada

[VOA]

M-1 bumps.

THE M-1 DOES MY TALKING!

I suppose you've seen that famous WWII poster. Got my Dad an NRA publication loaded with
nothing but M-1 Garand photos and memorabilia...with a copy of that poster with the
four-day beard GI making his famous statement. Reminded him of his fun (ha!) summer days
of basic training at the ironically-named Ft. Bliss in El Paso Texas during the mid-1950s.
(But he did get rewarded for a year in Hawaii for his troubles!)
And I might mention that I was AMAZED to meet a young ROTC type on my liberal college
campus on a Saturday morning carrying an Korea-era M-1 IN THE OPEN.
Despite my warning for him to case it (due to the local anti-gun nuts), he said he came and
went freely on campus with it once a week for years...and has never been hasseled.

What kind of pervert wants to break up P-51D Mustangs, P40s, P-38's, M-1 Garands, and the like?
Someone with absolutely NO SENSE OF HISTORY...OR ARTISTRY!!!
(I say the last because I think I read once that the most popular section of
one of the big museums in New York City is their section dealing with antique arms!)

[VOA]

Just like the Feinstein .50 cal bill that's going through congress

The NRA (and the group that runs that maching-gun shoot twice a year in Kentuck...I think)
needs to do is find out how many of our snipers in Afghanistan learned to shoot
something like the .50 Barrett or similar gun as civilians.

I think I saw that US Special Forces snipers were mentioned by one "Times of London"
report as a nasty problem for the remaining Al-Queda fighting it out in the hills.
I can't help but wondering if they were using the Barrett...I think it was used
in the Gulf War some.

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(and the group that runs that maching-gun shoot twice a year in Kentuck...I think)

That'd be Knob Creek

[VOA]

Tree of Liberty,
Thanks for the graphic...which I have saved!
(I think I already have a copy...but it doesn't hurt to have a back-up!)

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Should've added above that yes, we did have snipers with .50BMG Barrett's in Iraq.

[skeeter]

Good, but I wasn't gonna comply anyway.

[VOA]

That'd be Knob Creek

Thanks for the reminder. SOME YEAR I'm going to find time/money to get there!
Hopefully these legislative/bureaucratic weasels will be neutralized (in a peaceful,
lawful manner!) and future generations can enjoy these sorts of festivities.

[Tree of Liberty]

Any time :) There are higher-res copies out there if you search for them. I think JimRob posted a bunch of hi-res WWII posters a few months back.

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Me too. I think they hold the shoot twice a year. I wanted to go in October, but I was (and still am, a little bit) getting settled down from a move.