Scientist Found Slain In His Loudoun Home (2 More Bio-Experts Dead, EbolaVictimMissing)

|Washington Post, Reuters, Australian Newspaper ^ | December 12, 2001 | News Staffs

[MarMema]

And we hope that his sole accomplishment was NOT to hand over a vial to some terrorists just before he was killed. I'm really going out on a limb here with speculation I know, but a microbiologist is what I was considered. And mostly what you do in that role is care for the samples in the freezer.

[MarMema]

He was killed after entering a low temperature storage area where biological samples were kept

[MarMema]

the premier animal virus facility in the world

And this statement is chilling in and of itself.

[MarMema]

Here is one more chilling statement from a link I posted above...

"Dr Wang says CSIRO's Australian Animal Health Laboratory (AAHL) is now the only institute in the world holding a collection of all major newly discovered paramyxoviruses."

[MarMema]

I now rest my case. :-)

[MarMema]

Please read my theorizing above and tell me I am completely crazy and have gone off the deep end. Thanks.

[riri]

Good stuff. I have been wrangling with these deaths/disappearances for a couple of days. Thanks for your expertise and research. Very curious.

[MarMema]

LOL. I was just playing around and then went and scared myself with the online quickie research I did.

[Marie]

No! That's the problem! They had missing posters up at the clinic when the first dr disappeared and a few people have been questioned, but the posters came down and everything got quiet. My friend was good friends with Dr. Baldwin and a few other people at the clinic. That's how she knows about the two others. Again, more investigators showed up, but nobody knows anything. This is NOT a rumor. I'm trying to get the names of the two other physicians that disappeared last month.

[Marie]

The first guy was named Dr. Baldwin. I'm trying to get the other two names.

[Marie]

Where did you find the article? Do you have a link? (My friend knows his wife. He's still missing)

[Marie]

Disregard post 111. *duh* @ me.

If I find the names of the other two, I'll send them to you. Thanks!

[OwenKellogg]

FYI

[bvw]

"Police said he did not know the room was full of deadly gas which had leaked from a liquid nitrogen cooling system. Unable to breathe, he collapsed and died."

Confined space, almost no oxygen. Two breaths -- dead. Actually happens, a standard danger in industry, one people are normally trained to avoid.

Doesn't matter if the gas is deadly or not. What is deadly, and quicker than heck, is the lack of oxygen.

[vrwc54]

I heard this on the Art Bell show the other night, and was at first scared to death.

When I checked these stories out the next morning, I thought they had been hyped-up. The Virginia murder has been solved as you know by now.

I enjoy Art Bell, but I take it with a grain of salt.

However, I appreciate your efforts to keep us informed, and we can make up our own minds.

[Nita Nupress]

This is a little more information, but it's still not very specific.  MarMema, thanks for your contributions to this thread.

 

Herald Sun
December 13, 2001, Thursday

NEWS; Pg. 26

Victim of airlock tragedy a dad of two
By Mark Buttler

A MARRIED father of two has been identified as the scientist who suffocated in a puzzling accident at a laboratory in Geelong.

Microbiologist Set Van Nguyen, 44, was found dead in an airlock chamber at the CSIRO's Australian Animal Health Laboratory on Tuesday morning. Mr Nguyen, of West Fyans St, Geelong, had worked at the laboratory for the past 15 years and had entered an airlock that led to a room containing nitrogen.

Police said once the outer door was closed, he operated an inner airlock door, was unable to breathe and collapsed.

CSIRO spokeswoman Emma Holmes said Vietnamese-born Mr Nguyen was married with two daughters.

She said he worked with the micro-security unit which was responsible for ensuring exotic animal diseases under examination could not escape the centre.

"He was very popular with staff and was a warm character," Ms Holmes said.

"He never had a harsh word for anybody."

Mr Nguyen's body was found early on Tuesday morning after his wife raised concerns that he had not come home from work.

WorkCover is investigating the tragedy and a police brief will be prepared for the coroner.

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Unless they find that foul play was involved, we'll probably never hear another word about this one.  If someone will help me remember in a few days, I'll take another look to see if anything turned up.

[rdavis84]

Thanks for joining in. We need folks like you to do what you've done; simplify the data for us. And don't be concerned about speculating. You'll get some of the known "trust the government to save us" chorus flames, but you'll note they don't contribute, just dispute.

Please continue.

[Nita Nupress]

Please read my theorizing above and tell me I am completely crazy and have gone off the deep end.

You didn't address me specifically, but that's never stopped me before. ;-) I know you were probably saying that in jest, but I want to make a comment to everyone about this.

No, we're not going off the deep end by gathering facts and then theorizing from those facts.  To avoid creating an atmosphere of 'wild-eyed speculation,' it's important to gather the facts first and then hypothesize and brainstorm.  From what I can see, that's exactly what we're doing.  We're simply "adding to the body of knowledge."  :-)

It's likely that this "unusual" mortality rate among physicians and scientists is not unusual at all and we're only noticing because of the current events since 9/11.  But nonetheless, we have at least eight years worth of "unusual" deaths that have preceded this, so it would be stupid not to keep an open mind about it and look for patterns and correlations. It's quite disconcerting to think of the possibilities here and very tempting to automatically dismiss it as NutWing/Paranoid thinking to avoid thinking about it, but under the current circumstances, we can't afford to do that.

Many of these deaths are turning out to be caused by things such as enraged wives, Goth cults, and the like, but that shouldn't stop us from examining each and every one.

[ghostkatz]

I thought I heard that the Royal Saudi family owned or had large holdings in bio-tech companies here and abroad. Some of the Royals supposedly disappeared around 9/11 leaving their palacial estate vacant in L.A. area, any info on this?? This is SOOO bizarre!