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ARAFAT ORDERED DIPLO SLAYINGS: EX-SPY
New York Post ^ | 12/15/01 | URI DAN

Posted on 12/15/2001 12:19:19 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:02:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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1 posted on 12/15/2001 12:19:19 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
We have to pussy-foot around with terrorists like Arafat, and anti-american Saudis and other militant muslims who hate us because why????

Because we are so #%&$ing dependent on their oil. We need to develop alternative fuel sources and alternative sources of petroleum....and leave all the Arabs to their desert sands...and Allah.

2 posted on 12/15/2001 12:27:05 AM PST by Tom Jefferson
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To: kattracks
Walsh, now an Oregon businessman, told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that the conversation was never disclosed by U.S. officials because it would compromise American eavesdropping resources.

Well, the toothpaste is out of the tube now.

3 posted on 12/15/2001 12:29:38 AM PST by HAL9000
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But Clinton administration officials arranged for Arafat to avoid the subpenas, sources said.

One more brilliant idea by the cohorts of X-42.

4 posted on 12/15/2001 12:37:33 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: kattracks
Achille Lauro survivors launch suit against Arafat - June 2000

And from this site...

"...Just how much Arafat himself had to do with the Achille Lauro hijacking is unclear. Abbas and Arafat reportedly held talks in Tunis two days before the ship was seized. According to Israeli intelligence reports and information relayed by Italian Defence Minister Giovanni Spadolini, "the terrorists were in contact, via the ship's radio telephone, with a PLF [Palestine Liberation Front] co-ordinator in Genoa. He, in turn, got in touch with the PLO headquarters in Tunis for final instructions." Arafat's relationship with Abbas, and the fact Abbas was a member of the PLO's Executive Committee from 1984 to 1991, led to the US decision to refuse Arafat a visa to enter the US to address the UN General Assembly in November 1988."

Sounds like he was connected like bin Laden to Mohammed Atta

5 posted on 12/15/2001 12:48:55 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: Tom Jefferson
Because we are so #%&$ing dependent on their oil. We need to develop alternative fuel sources and alternative sources of petroleum....and leave all the Arabs to their desert sands...and Allah.

Don't say that too loudly... A lot of Freepers seem to be quite proud of owning gas guzzling and SUVs and think we should remain dependent on the ragheads for their oil.

You're right... develop alternative fuels sources, and then completely cut the middle east off. Let these animals return to the 7th century.

6 posted on 12/15/2001 12:49:24 AM PST by ambrose
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To: spycatcher
But Clinton administration officials arranged for Arafat to avoid the subpenas, sources said.

Trust Clinton to be behind the thwarting of Justice in the furtherance of a legacy.

8 posted on 12/15/2001 1:34:52 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: ambrose
You're right... develop alternative fuels sources, and then completely cut the middle east off. Let these animals return to the 7th century.

We only get 10% of our oil from the middle east. 50% from home production. 10% from south america 10% from russia 10% from mexico. It is our pacific allies and europe that gets most of its oil from the middle east not us.
9 posted on 12/15/2001 1:39:26 AM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: ambrose
It's more complicated than oil. Arafat has/had a lot of friends in Europe. It was much more a matter of our government wimping out. The Middle East understand strength. Look at how little protest there is agianst U.S. action. If we had dealt with Arafat sooner, we would have saved many lives, and the Saudis and everyone would have gotten over it.
10 posted on 12/15/2001 2:56:49 AM PST by eno_
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To: ambrose
" A lot of Freepers seem to be quite proud of owning gas guzzling and SUVs and think we should remain dependent on the ragheads for their oil. You're right... develop alternative fuels sources, and then completely cut the middle east off. Let these animals return to the 7th century."

I have had it up to here with Liberals, soccer moms, and other bubbleheads prescribing the cure for our oil dependence as: “find another fuel source” or “build cars that get 80 miles to the gallon” and then thinking they have made a contribution. Every Democrat in and out of Congress is proposing conservation as the answer to our energy problems. I have yet to find one who has a degree in science or engineering. They are all lawyers who thing that things get done by passing a law. Well, they don’t.

Things get done by people who know how to design things that actually work. They get done by people who know how to build things, and who can actually produce things like automobiles and trucks and airplanes.

Modern society – not just American society, but modern society globally – is built around engines that use oil as their fuel source. By all means, encourage R&D in alternative means of motive power and alternative fuel sources. But stop living in a fantasy land by believing that the world will wean itself away from petroleum as the principal source of fuel in the next 50 years.

Don’t like SUVs? Fine, don’t buy one. But don’t tell other people they can’t have one. People buy them for a reason: they are roomy, they are safer than a compact sedan, they can be used to haul things and they can be driven where regular cars cannot. People who buy them have made the adult decision that they will pay for the gasoline that they consume.

The “alternative energy” as the short-term solution people remind me of a story told during World War 2. It seems that German submarines were threatening to strangle England by sinking her shipping. The British government was desperate to find a way of eliminating the U-boat menace. One day they were approached by a leading politician who said he knew of a way to destroy all the German subs: simply heat the ocean to the boiling point, that would force the U-boats to the surface where they could be sighted and destroyed by the British navy. When asked how the heating could be accomplished, the politician airily replied: “Oh, that’s an engineering problem, let them figure it out.”

11 posted on 12/15/2001 4:16:50 AM PST by moneyrunner
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To: ambrose
...and then completely cut the middle east off. Let these animals return to the 7th century.

I'm sorry to inform you that I have it on good authority that the arabs in the mid-East are currently lodged firmly in the 15th, possibly the 16 century. In 1984, on my first trip to Saudi, the pilot of our British Airways flight, upon announcing our imminent landing at Jeddah, stated that the local time was 11:00 PM, and that we should set our clocks and watches back 500 years.

12 posted on 12/15/2001 5:46:43 AM PST by woofer
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To: kattracks
Yassir Arafat a terrorist!?! Shocking!
13 posted on 12/15/2001 5:49:48 AM PST by angkor
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Well, well, well

Brit Hume and Carl Cameron have anonymous sources but this story actually names the former U.S. Intelligence officer (Walsh) who heard the tape where Arafat orders the murder of our diplomats.

Let's see how many members of the local anti-Israel Al-Qaeda club show up on this thread to defend their protege.

14 posted on 12/15/2001 6:00:09 AM PST by a_witness
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
We only get 10% of our oil from the middle east. 50% from home production. 10% from south america 10% from russia 10% from mexico. It is our pacific allies and europe that gets most of its oil from the middle east not us.

It's not that simple. Since oil tankers can easily be re-routed to other ports, the Europeans and Asians would certainly bid for tanker loads from South America, Russia, and Mexico, as well as from the US production. And the price would be sky high. Unless you favor embargoing US oil exports and imposing price controls -- an odd policy for a Libertarian.

Further, no matter the country in which oil is produced or consumed, the US and British oil companies dominate the business. Shutting off the Mid East oil would be a tremendous blow to Exxon-Mobil, British Pete and Shell. That would be in turn a tremendous blow to our markets and economy.

15 posted on 12/15/2001 6:26:15 AM PST by Lessismore
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To: Tom Jefferson
It's not merely the oil, it is because exteremist death cults were the only resource to "check" Soviet progress and other extremists in the region.
17 posted on 12/15/2001 6:51:10 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: moneyrunner
“Oh, that’s an engineering problem, let them figure it out.”

Pretty much sums up the liberal attitude.

18 posted on 12/15/2001 7:07:41 AM PST by Anamensis
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To: kattracks
BTTT.
19 posted on 12/15/2001 7:08:53 AM PST by veronica
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To: The Documentary Lady; a_witness
Please post any reponse from us that stated we thought Arafat wasn't a terrorist.

I thought you considered him more of a... uhm... "freedom fighter."

20 posted on 12/15/2001 7:09:58 AM PST by Anamensis
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