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Aghan Commanders: We've Got Bin Laden Cornered
NewsMax ^ | December 15, 2001 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 12/15/2001 5:11:43 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

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Saturday Dec. 15, 2001; 8:58 a.m. EST

Aghan Commanders: We've Got Bin Laden Cornered

Anti-Taliban forces fighting alongside the U.S. in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan say they are certain that terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden is now holed up in one cave complex in the Agam Valley.

"There is one cave surrounded by my forces," said Hazrat Ali, the warlord leading the attack on Tora Bora. "I think there is one place where Osama is. They are surrounded and they cannot escape," he added, according to the New York Post.

While the Pentagon won't go so far as to second Ali's claims, military planners are said to be encouraged by the fierce fighting put up by al Qaeda forces in the region.

U.S. strategists believe al Qaeda troops would have long ago surrendered unless they were protecting some very important prize.

Along with the reports from Afghan field commanders, battle zone radio intercepts also suggest bin Laden remains pinned down in the region.

One concern is the cave complexes themselves, some of which are believed to extend for 50 miles and stretch underneath the Pakistani border.

Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Mussharaf has ordered 4,000 troops to the region to intercept al Qaeda forces should they decide to flee.

Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics:

Al-Qaeda
War on Terrorism


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1 posted on 12/15/2001 5:11:43 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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Cave gettin' a little crowded there Osama???



2 posted on 12/15/2001 5:14:24 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing

The 'True Believers'

Despite the optimism in the media on Thursday that Osama Bin Laden had likely slipped into neighboring Pakistan, the growing empirical evidence suggests the sanguinesness was premature.

Data gleaned from U.S. surveillance drones and enemy radio and satellite communications intercepts strongly indicate the terror mastermind is still ensconced inside the cave complex of Tora Bora. In fact, Saturday's Washington Times reports that Special Operations ground forces reportedly overheard Bin Laden's characteristic voice over Walkie-Talkie radio, issuing orders to the hundreds of Saudi, Chechen and Pakistani terrorists battling the anti-Taliban Eastern Alliance in the rugged mountains of the region.

On Thursday, a bulletin posted on the Christian Science Monitor website purported to show the world's most wanted fugitive had already fled to Pakistan. The "report", based on dubious sources, has since been thoroughly discredited.

While nothing is etched in stone, U.S. commanders are growing increasingly confident that the clock is ticking on Bin Laden, the diabolical monster responsible for the most deadly act of domestic terrorism ever perpetrated on American soil.

The mounting evidence apparently has not dissuaded the 'true believers' in the least, however. William Arkin, "senior" military "analyst" for MSNBC (and perennial pessimist), last night boldly predicted on Hardball that Osama Bin Laden will never be captured. Michael Griffin, author of Reaping the Whirlwind, also appearing on Hardball, lightly dismissed the bombing over Tora Bora as a waste of time, since -- according to him -- Bin Laden had long ago skipped to Kandahar.

Gee, if only our CIA and military heeded the vastly superior intelligence collection and analytical prowess of Arkin and Griffin, why, Osama would long ago have been nabbed.

</sarcasm>

The powerful urge the media feels to pooh-pooh the chances of Bin Laden's capture assumes an almost religious-like fervor. It stems from their delusional fixation to that aura, that image, that inscrutable mystique they themselves have cultivated around Osama Bin Laden -- the "legend" in their own minds. Essentially, the media kooks are enthralled and enchanted by a myth of their own making.

In their fantasies, Bin Laden is bigger than life itself, immune from armies, from bullets, from bombs, from Gatling guns. Their make-believe world can not countenance Bin Laden being tricked or outmaneuvered by the "enemy".

And if -- IF -- by chance fate should catch up with him, still he dies the death of a "martyr"; in their eyes, he remains 'unbowed and undefeated' -- at all times, firmly in control of his "destiny". From whence the flurry of OBL "suicide" stories came, none of them confirmed.

To the sickos in the media, whether he lives or he dies in the end, he's still the victor.

Hyperbole, you say?

I say, stay tuned.

My two cents..
"JohnHuang2"


3 posted on 12/15/2001 5:23:42 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: MeeknMing
I for one find it hard to believe ANY cave stretches for 50 miles through a mountainous region. If UBL gets to Pakistan, it will be from all the opposition forces repeatedly falling for his "surrender" tactic.
4 posted on 12/15/2001 5:26:44 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: JohnHuang2
Nice summary, John. I could not agree more.

CT

5 posted on 12/15/2001 5:36:06 AM PST by CT
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To: CT
Thanks, CT =^)
6 posted on 12/15/2001 5:40:18 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I'll second CT's thoughts. Love your editorials.
7 posted on 12/15/2001 5:42:16 AM PST by NYS_Eric
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To: NYS_Eric
Thank you, too =^)
8 posted on 12/15/2001 5:45:17 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
OBL has consistently underestimated the US. He didn't think the towers would come down, they did. He didn't think we would go after him on such a grand scale, we did. He didn't think we would be this fierce, we are. He didn't think our bombing would be this effective, especially on the caves, it is. He is, in short, a dumbass with a lot of money.
9 posted on 12/15/2001 5:49:12 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: JohnHuang2
Dittos, John! Thanks!
10 posted on 12/15/2001 5:51:22 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Republic of Texas
He is, in short, a dumbass with a lot of money.

Yep! Soon to be a Dead dumbass. . .


Go Ahead, Punk! - Make My Day! !

11 posted on 12/15/2001 5:55:19 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Golden Eagle
I for one find it hard to believe ANY cave stretches for 50 miles through a mountainous region.

I agree. That would be one big pile of dirt sitting outside the cave.

12 posted on 12/15/2001 5:57:51 AM PST by openotherend
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To: JohnHuang2
Yup, the media wants to cast him as Omar Sharif on a black stallion playing the part of Zoro........ I for one wish we would capture him and put him through a tribunal....then kill him. Elsewise the media will continue to cast him as other than what he truly is.
13 posted on 12/15/2001 6:07:54 AM PST by umgud
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To: openotherend
I live in Missouri. There are areas in the hills along the Mississippi River that have networks of caves going for maybe as far as 150 miles. The limestone hills are honeycombed with these caves, and mostly unmapped. There have been children who have gone missing in the caves never to be found. I belive the caves in the White Mountains could be tremendous. BSW
15 posted on 12/15/2001 6:10:04 AM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: JohnHuang2
From whence didst thou findest the word "sanguinesness"?
16 posted on 12/15/2001 6:13:29 AM PST by Renatus
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To: JohnHuang2
You've got it exactly right, John. The media admire the punk traitor, John Walker,........ and Castro too.

If you are anti-American, that makes you a brother.

17 posted on 12/15/2001 6:14:37 AM PST by Bryce Buchanan
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To: JohnHuang2
OBL may be more valuable as an escapee from Afghanistan. If he is killed or captured, international and world opinion may hinder Bush's plan to wipe out terrorists wherever they may exist (the remainder of the Islamic world). Europe and the DemoRats will declare complete victory and will want to fold their military tents. Saddam and his like will be spared as the need for middle east oil becomes more important than world security. On the other hand if OBL is still at large, Bush still has a bargaining chip to persuade our supposed allies to finish what needs done to destroy terrorism where ever it exists.
18 posted on 12/15/2001 6:15:41 AM PST by buckalfa
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To: MeeknMing
Next person who posts a "Bin Laden is here" thread, gets a custard pie in the face.
19 posted on 12/15/2001 6:18:37 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: MeeknMing

20 posted on 12/15/2001 6:19:18 AM PST by NC Conservative
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