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Hard times for U.S. Muslims
The Indianapolis Star ^
| December 16, 2001
| SHAHID ATHAR
Posted on 12/16/2001 4:36:38 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
" We are not going back, nor can we be interned."
To: dennisw
Considering that the most comprehensive surveys indicate that there are 1,800,000 Muslims in ths USA (INCLUDING "BLACK MUSLIMS") or less than 1%, AND that there is no evidence that Muslims are vastly over-represented in the financial services sector (e.g. Cantor Fitzgerald bond trading company which lost 700 of the 3500 total), his figure of 500 is obviously a propaganda statement. But remember that there is a doctrine from the earliest days of the invention of Islam, which states that a Muslim is obligated to lie (to infidels such as us) when telling a lie would advance the cause of Islam. (There are numerous references in the Quran that the Allah-spirit supposedly told Mohammed it is OK to break treaties when needed. M. just needed to have the go-ahead to do something like massacre 900 Jews in medina and the Allah-spirit would give a revelation immediately saying "oh, ok, whatever".
To: dennisw
In New York they were defining a "hate crime" as slamming the door on a cab.
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:10:27 AM PST
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sarcasm
To: sarcasm
Hmmm...maybe the FBI should pay this Muslim a visit.
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:11:04 AM PST
by
healey22
To: not-an-ostrich
We should learn Islam for ourselves as a religion of love, peace and tolerance This must be a different kind of Islam that has a different Holy Book, or maybe this kind reads a redacted Quran.
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:11:37 AM PST
by
arthurus
To: sarcasm
...immigrant Muslims have started to question whether they should go back to their countries of origin.Easy answer: Go...
"If you do not like the West, go back to your own country."
...and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:12:23 AM PST
by
stboz
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To: sarcasm
Thanks for the illuminating post. What a self-centered, self-pitying load.
Will our children get admission to schools of flight training, biomedical research and nuclear physics?
If they're citizens, they're getting admission now and can't legally be denied it. More strangely, so are non-citizen nationals of the same countries the hijackers came from. (I'll bet the next thing will be someone bitching about not getting a security clearance.)
Will we ever feel comfortable flying as a passenger in an airplane?
Will WE? (whatever "we" means? I assume he is claiming to speak for all muslims in the US, so I'll go ahead and speak for all non-muslims).
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:12:51 AM PST
by
pttttt
To: wildandcrazyrussian
Here's something from another Russian fellow.
These are the Musli, historical accuracy has no meaning for them in their religious dialectic. As with everything, it is just a tool to spread their version of the dialectic...as much an epidemic on man kind as the former Soviet variety. 10 Posted on 06/20/2001 21:56:41 PDT by Stavka2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ] |
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:13:12 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: sarcasm
Who cares? Send them to hell with allah their false god.
To: sarcasm
Doctor Profiles M.D., F.A.C.E., F.A.C.P.
Dr. Athar has practiced Endocrinology since 1974. He is staff physician at St. Vincent Hospital and Clinical Associate Professor of Medicine at the Indiana University School of Medicine. He is a Fellow, American College of Endocrinology and American College of Physicians.
More of his writing at http://www.islam-usa.com/ (and elsewhere). Here's a brief sample:
O Allah, You gave us freedom, but many Muslims are living under oppression or as refugees. O Allah, give victory to all those who are striving for Your cause. O Allah, give us leaders who are wise and pious. O Allah, You who put love in the heart of believers, unite us now so that we can recognize our enemy, the Satan, and walk away from him and walk together toward You. O Allah, You have asked us "to save yourself and your families from hell fire." Help us achieve this by establishing Islam in ourselves, our families, our community and our countries including the USA.
To: jrlc
ISLAM...THE RELIGION OF DENIAL
ISLAM...WHO NEEDS REALITY
To: not-an-ostrich
On the other extreme are Muslim leaders, who, after recovering from the shock of Sept. 11, suffered from an unwarranted guilt complex and became apologetic. After visits by the FBI, they realized they must make politically correct statements now in order to save American Islam. They had to change their tone of speech and writing, and even retracted and regretted statements made before Sept. 11 against the U.S. "superpower."So have you heard any of these folks? There have been a couple as of late on TV talking out of both sides of their mouths..
As for the ones lost...hey they too were marytrs..they got their 72 virgins..
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:17:20 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: sarcasm
There is a BIG difference between the immigrants of eighty years ago and the NEW immigrants from third world cesspools of Africa, Mexico, South America and the Middle-east. Eighty years ago immigrants came here with a belief that freedom, capitalism and hard work would pay off. They came here to be Americans and quickly assimilated into the American culture. The NEW immigrants, muslims included, come here not to be Americans, but to just be ex-patriots, unable to function in their homeland and critical of their new homeland. They would NEVER defend America, as has been proven in the aftermath of 9/11. HAS ANY MUSLIM CLERIC OR MOSQUE IN AMERICA CONDEMMED THE 9/11 ATTACKS?
To all you NEW immigrants: PLEASE LEAVE - you'll feel more at home in the third-world dictatorship from which you came. PS: Take your kids with you. America doesn't need you, never has and never will. Don't hand me this crap about you pay taxes too. It takes more than being a taxpayer to be an American.
To: RippleFire
Help us achieve this by establishing Islam in ourselves, our families, our community and our countries including the USA. When they will then attempt to ban any other religions.
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:20:26 AM PST
by
sarcasm
To: sarcasm
We are neither with the terrorists nor with those who intend to terrorize us. We are here to stay, vote and participate in the American process. Note the absence of the term,"become good Americans."
To: not-an-ostrich
500 Muslims died on 9/11? Probably true.
But it's a worldwide figure.
ML/NJ
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:22:31 AM PST
by
ml/nj
To: sarcasm
"Are you with us or with the terrorists?" We are neither with the terrorists nor with those who intend to terrorize us. We are here to stay, vote and participate in the American process. We are not going back, nor can we be interned.In other words, these A-RABS are neither against the U.S. of A. nor are they against any future attacks on this country by their relatives and friends... Well, raghead....That doesn't leave many options...
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:22:52 AM PST
by
Iscool
To: glockmeister40
well said!
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:25:34 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: RnMomof7
And it is not even a real statement of true feeling...it is a PC statement. My blood is boiling.
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