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THE BRAVE NEW RIGHT... THE "SILENT MAJORITY" IS TALKING
Etherzone ^ | Elysian Hunter

Posted on 12/16/2001 6:18:02 AM PST by SemperFidelis

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To: SemperFidelis
Ronald Reagan bump! Thank you!
21 posted on 12/16/2001 7:34:00 AM PST by Skel
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To: SemperFidelis
Generation "X" came into wide use after Douglas Copeland's book --Generation X" He described this generation as being born between 1965 and 1980. He further indicated that the hallmark of the generation was "underemployed, overeducation, intensely private and unpredictable.

Copeland credited Paul Fussell's book, Class. Professor Fussell wrote a popular book sometime in the mid-eighties dividing American social classes into hidden upper, upper, high middle, mid-middle and low middle. He then added two classes of proletariat, one of the destitutes and a final of the hidden bottom. Sort of as an afterthought, and to make himself feel good, he added a class he called "X". Allegedly, this group avoids class distinctions and is quite independent (just like liberal college professors). I would rather be a drunk like Kingsley Amis than a member of the "X" class.

Fussell's book IMHO is worth a read if you keep in mind he is a classic Northeastern liberal with an exemplary war record in WW II.

It is always worthwhile to hypothesize about groups; however, it is also always dangerous since there is a class consciousness and criticalness that fails to account for wide ranges of individual behavior.

22 posted on 12/16/2001 7:38:36 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Senator_Blutarski
You make the mistake of viewing Marxist economic theory in a vacuum. The sort of oppresion that happened in the Soviet Union was not a by-product or coincidence that just happened to go with Marxist economic doctrine, it was the muscle that was needed to enforce Marxism. Don't confuse a welfare state with a communist police state. One may well lead to the other, but it doesn't have to (Example: Sweden), and it's not the same thing.

Although in a sense you're right. What we saw in the Soviet union was actually Stalinism. Still, I think the sentiments expressed in the article are overblown and self-pitying, and PC is alive and well anyway.

23 posted on 12/16/2001 7:45:14 AM PST by Batrachian
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To: Batrachian
"we had Marxism shoved down our throats." "

We have all have this nonsense shoved down our throats daily in this nation for many years. The liberals/leftists have had their way for long enough. And you don't have to have lived in Russia to say this.

24 posted on 12/16/2001 7:47:41 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Batrachian
Your argument is fraught with bad logic.

Let me start with your main point.... You make the mistake of viewing Marxist economic theory in a vacuum.

That is the only way you can treat Marx, since his theory

is purely intellectual; having no practical application.

25 posted on 12/16/2001 7:56:43 AM PST by SemperFidelis
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To: nothingnew
Thanks...........and for the heads up on Steyn.
26 posted on 12/16/2001 8:02:33 AM PST by SemperFidelis
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To: maica
I agree. Perhaps out of this tragedy there will come a new understanding.
27 posted on 12/16/2001 8:08:25 AM PST by SemperFidelis
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To: SemperFidelis
Great article...having GW in the White House at this moment in American history...when our country was attacked and our mission is so clear...has given conservatives an incredible opportunity to voice their ideas and be listened to...whether people voted for him or not the American people love their president...even a lot of leftists feel safer with him in charge...both he and Rumsfeld are plain-spoken men...they inspire trust with their common sense and clear vision of right and wrong...conservatism is a common sense approach to social problems while the leftist believe in a utopian world...Osama taught us that only fools believe in Utopia and fools get cut down when they least expect it...as Reagan said, "Trust, but verify"...
28 posted on 12/16/2001 8:10:29 AM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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To: liberallarry
When it is dominant - although it begins with the idea of meritocracy - it usually slides into the mistaken identification of wealth as proof of merit and abandons the idea of noblesse oblige - which is necessary in any decent society - in favor of unfettered greed

Explain this to me! I think Gen-X'ers are also fed up with psychobabble! I know I am!

29 posted on 12/16/2001 8:10:52 AM PST by gr8eman
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To: liberallarry
The author is a little light on criticism of the Right.

I agree.

There are plenty of socialists on that side of the aisle.

30 posted on 12/16/2001 8:26:39 AM PST by SemperFidelis
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To: SemperFidelis
Yet the "silent majority" has finally begun to speak- in opposing "political correctness" which is merely a code phrase for censorship and a lack of tolerance for Conservative views.

Ever since the internet we have become an information society and we are hungry for truth, now we can find it at our finger tips all around the world. The silent majority includes all political persuasions

31 posted on 12/16/2001 8:29:32 AM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: Senator_Blutarski
Well stated!
32 posted on 12/16/2001 8:40:25 AM PST by SemperFidelis
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To: SemperFidelis
Maybe there is something we baby boomers may have done right, and that may turn out to be the gen-xers! I know that my oldest son gets so peeved whenever he get his paycheck, especially at this guy at the bottom named FICA that takes so much of his money! In spite of my best efforts, he turned out alright anyway, and that's a good thing. He is a bona-fide, hard right, free thinking, conservative, who hates PC, hates liberial policies, hates the Klintons, and can smell liberial BS coming from 10 miles off! BTW, his little brother is following in his footsteps! 2 more for the anti-liberial war!
33 posted on 12/16/2001 8:51:45 AM PST by dirtbiker
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To: SemperFidelis
I have three Gen-X children. They are fiercely pro-life, pro-constitution, pro-military, anti-PC, anti-big Government, anti-public education, anti-Marx... etc., etc., etc. All voted for Bush.

Is this brain-washing? No. I raised them to think for themselves.

My son voted for Clinton in '91 - making up his own mind, listening to the sound-bites but not looking at the facts. It was a bitter lesson for him, he is still ashamed and has looked at the facts almost rabidly in the two subsequent presidential elections.

Maybe this is another lesson that some Gen-Xers have learned - learning from their mistakes.

34 posted on 12/16/2001 8:58:05 AM PST by FrogMom
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To: gr8eman
One favored group is replaced by another. The son-in-law replaces the black man. And so on. There's a reason why the Founders sought to prevent the re-establishment of a society of rentiers.

The most perfect meritocratic element of our society is professional sports. In that world a few superstars are showered with enormous wealth, a larger group make a decent living, and the remaining athletes of the world have to find some other way to survive. Without some form of redistribution - noblesse oblige or taxation or you name it - you'll get that kind of distribution over much of society.

35 posted on 12/16/2001 9:01:14 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: SemperFidelis
So socialistic programs always fail and capitalist programs always succeed?

How do the GI bill, Hoover dam, Social Security, the National Highway program, the Space program, Enron, LTCM, the Great Depression, the Internet Bubble, etc., etc.? fit into your ideological straight-jacket?

36 posted on 12/16/2001 9:06:42 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: SemperFidelis
Bookmarked for future ammunition against the commie liberals.
37 posted on 12/16/2001 9:07:06 AM PST by kitkat
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To: maica
They were not at home watching MTV. They were contributing to the GNP.

Forgive my French, but, that is one hell of a soundbite!

With your permission, I'm going to use that as a saying to be frequently used.


38 posted on 12/16/2001 9:07:50 AM PST by rdb3
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To: liberallarry
Your username alone is enough for me to go off on you like a megaton nuke.
39 posted on 12/16/2001 9:13:51 AM PST by rdb3
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To: SemperFidelis
Thank heavens, we have some kids out there that are going to turn into fine adults who care about what is right.
40 posted on 12/16/2001 9:15:08 AM PST by freekitty
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