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Is PayPal Losing It?
Complete Computer Services, Inc. ^ | December 2001 | Y. Goodman

Posted on 12/17/2001 8:27:13 AM PST by struwwelpeter

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To: struwwelpeter
I don't know what to tell you except the concept of PayPal was a silly one to begin with. The "services" offered by PayPal, Yahoo Wallet, etc, etc can mostly be found with your typical credit card.

I've purchased many high-priced items on Ebay. If the seller required PayPal or something similar I would not even consider bidding on it. I'll either use a bank-issued cashier's check or a credit card.

Both have the backing of, no doubt, an entire floor of lawyers who will gladly work with me to get my money back if I'm bulls###ed. :)
41 posted on 12/18/2001 4:13:51 AM PST by Mr. Fit
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To: struwwelpeter
Exactly why we do not use any of these payment methods.
42 posted on 12/18/2001 4:21:57 AM PST by Dustbunny
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To: struwwelpeter
I guess they don't have to follow banking laws?
43 posted on 12/18/2001 5:49:38 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: jmp702
Need good, safe service? Verizon, dude.
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44 posted on 12/18/2001 6:43:28 AM PST by CommiesOut
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To: Mr. Fit, Dustbunny, Patriotic American, CommiesOut
PayPal will self-destruct eventually. No business can afford to abuse their customers indefinitely.

Commies: Interesting that one of the co-founders, Levchin, is a Khokhlovskiy emigrant from Kiev. He must have worked for the government there before coming over - his customer relations skills reminds me a lot of a visit to the VVIR (Visa & Registration) over there.

45 posted on 12/18/2001 9:13:47 AM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter
Bump for great justice!
46 posted on 12/18/2001 2:01:46 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: jmp702
A dab of satire is surely appreciated these days.
47 posted on 12/18/2001 2:30:01 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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P=Pathetic
A=Arrogant
YP=Yuppie
A=Airhead
L=Losers
48 posted on 12/18/2001 6:47:43 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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MasterCard to stop third-party transactions

By Andrew Backover, USA TODAY

A new rule by MasterCard could crimp online commerce by stopping merchants from accepting credit card payments through third parties, such as the popular PayPal, USA TODAY has learned.

Unless a settlement is reached, on May 1 Internet merchants and other mom-and-pop firms that rely on third-party billing could miss out on sales via the USA's No. 2 online credit card. And MasterCard holders could have a harder time using their cards at many sites that use PayPal and similar services, says Gartner analyst Avivah Litan.

"The promise of the Internet was that anyone could set up shop and get paid," she says. "It's not a level playing field anymore if this rule goes through."

According to MasterCard, its 15,000 members, such as banks and credit unions, won't be able to process credit card transactions using third-party services such as PayPal. They are used most often by small merchants who cannot afford to take MasterCard, other credit cards or checks.

Even if the MasterCard change goes through, consumers would still be able to use the card to buy goods from Web sites that deal directly with MasterCard.

The biggest third-party system is PayPal. It has about 13 million registered users, most of whom are small Web merchants or people who frequent auction sites.

The change would require those merchants to set up deals with banks so they could take MasterCard directly. That's a time-consuming and costly process, especially for small merchants.

The reason for the change, says MasterCard spokesman Alex Lau, is to protect financial institutions and card holders from fraud and identity theft.

Based on the rule's wording, it could affect other third-party services such as Yahoo's PayDirect and eBay Payments, Gartner's Litan says. Yahoo could not be reached. EBay says it does not expect to be affected because its services work through Wells Fargo.

PayPal is working hard to get an exemption, it says. Catering to small Web merchants and individuals, PayPal will sign them up with fewer hassles and lower fees than banks. PayPal uses its agreements with big banks to process credit card payments for these customers. PayPal has been one of the few Internet initial public offerings in recent years. It closed Thursday at $24.46.

PayPal spokesman Vince Sollitto says PayPal is "hopeful and confident" it will come to new terms with MasterCard. Visa says it still accepts PayPal. American Express still accepts PayPal and one other service.

The change is likely aimed at porn and gaming sites that have higher occurrences of credit card fraud and identity theft, Litan says. One in 20 online consumers were victimized by credit card fraud last year, she says.

49 posted on 04/21/2002 11:49:40 PM PDT by america-rules
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FYI!
50 posted on 04/21/2002 11:50:09 PM PDT by america-rules
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