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"The Fellowship Of The Ring": review by Darth Sidious
The presently elated state of my gray matter | December 19th, 2001 | Darth Sidious

Posted on 12/19/2001 1:22:18 AM PST by Darth Sidious

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To: Darth Sidious
Dittos, Darth. Dittos. Words cannot describe the experience of this movie. Simply the best movie I've ever seen.

Here's another review thread:

Movie Review—The Lord of the Rings

81 posted on 12/19/2001 6:54:26 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: John Farson
In Tolkien's books, bad things happen to men who use magic. Gandalf is not a man, but an Istari -- a spirit sent by Manwe to protect the people of the Middle-Earth. (Tolkien geeks please correct me if I'm wrong.)

Well, you're not very wrong. Certainly you have the Istari's role perfectly correct. My only caveat with your comments is that I believe Tolkien did not oppose the use of magic per se. Rather, he opposed the use of magic to dominate either men or nature. Both Sauron and Saruman are guilty of these sins. Anyone who took the ring and tried to use it "for good" would also be guilty of this sin.

The contrast between Gandalf and Saruman is most instructive. Saruman settles in at the fortress of Isengard and eventually tries to become a lord of men. That's where he goes wrong. Gandalf, however, never tries to have any personal power. Rather, Gandalf puts fire in the hearts of free people so that they themselves may rise up and fight against evil. Gandalf's use of magic in this effort is not improper because he gains nothing more than the diminution of the forces of evil in the world. This is a gain, of course, but it is not his personal gain.

82 posted on 12/19/2001 6:55:24 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: RobFromGa
I have not read the series and I haven't seen an movie in the theater in 2 years (and prior to that it was 2 years). Due to pressure from some friends, I went to the opening show. Wow! is all I can say. I watch my fair share of movies (heck, even have my own home theater) but this movie is truly a gem. No flaws in my opinion. Put this down with the originalStar Wars in my opinion. Definitely a keeper for all time. The crowd sat there for 3 hours in awe and then broke into clapping at the end. Beautiful, beautiful epic.
83 posted on 12/19/2001 7:00:10 PM PST by wireplay
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To: RobFromGa
I didn't read the book. I know The Hobbit from when I was young but really nothing else.

It was too long--no, it just *FELT* too long. It came across as ponderous, and repetitious with nary a hint as to where it would end in a "cliff-hanger". There was even no drama that Gandolf was going to be snared by the demon's whip. It had high points and lows yet seemed to have a frustrating lack of character development (likely due to cut scenes I've seen mentioned). It was hurt by obviously repeated shots and some dodgy effects now and again but saved by the strength of the acting. At a noon showing, I squirmed to stay alert. Others around me dosed off and when it was finally ended the audience gave tepid applause. There were too many instances of motion blur, the physical film print maybe wasn't the best. The score added nothing.

This was obviously a film *for* the book series' fans and won't find much of an audience beyond that I fear. The acting was OUTSTANDING, the story solid. I know Darth claims it's far above "Titanic" but not for one second in "Titanic" did I wonder what time it was, did I dwell on CGI issues--it captured and held my attention. Director Jackson wishes he had Cameron's pacing skills.

This film was greatly hurt by never conveying to the film-only audience where the film was meant to go, where this act or chapter would conclude. It came rather suddenly and once I got there it made sense. So, really, it would almost seem better on a second viewing if only because you have a rough idea of the scope of the story (never an issue with "Star Wars" or "Titanic" or other films).

I was curious but not overly impressed. I am curious where the next film goes and will likely see it. I do want to see this one again but I won't break my neck trying to get back to the theatre. I might just wait for video or DVD.

84 posted on 12/19/2001 7:18:34 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Darth Sidious
Thanks. I'm looking forward to seeing it. What ever happened with the traffic camera?
85 posted on 12/19/2001 7:27:01 PM PST by aruanan
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To: KC Burke
As it has been 34 years since I read this and the story still remains bright in my memory, I'm looking forward to seeing it during the holidays.

Good books grow as you do. You're long overdue reading TLOTR again.
86 posted on 12/19/2001 7:29:36 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Darth Sidious
This was an AWESOME movie. One of the best I have seen! It followed the book without getting bogged down in detail. Fantastic scenery and the Balrog was a fantastic monster. I am going again this weekend. This was worth 3 hours of sleep.
87 posted on 12/19/2001 7:35:46 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: newzjunkey
There was even no drama that Gandolf was going to be snared by the demon's whip.

Think very carefully about how and why the above statement is inane.
88 posted on 12/19/2001 7:35:56 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Darth Sidious
I can't disagree more. Please see Post 84 for some of my thoughts on the film as someone who DID NOT read the book(s).

FWIW, I have seen rarely more than one film per year for the past 6 yrs or longer? I actually made an exception this year and was reminded by LOTR *why* I don't bother going. So much promise... oh well.

89 posted on 12/19/2001 7:36:45 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Darth Sidious

Exodus 26
24They shall be coupled together at the bottom and they shall be coupled together at the top by one ring. Thus it shall be for both of them. They shall be for the two corners. 25So there shall be eight boards with their sockets of silver--sixteen sockets--two sockets under each of the boards.
26"And you shall make bars of acacia wood: five for the boards on one side of the tabernacle, 27five bars for the boards on the other side of the tabernacle, and five bars for the boards of the side of the tabernacle, for the far side westward. 28The middle bar shall pass through the midst of the boards from end to end. 29You shall overlay the boards with gold, make their rings of gold as holders for the bars, and overlay the bars with gold. 30And you shall raise up the tabernacle according to its pattern which you were shown on the mountain.

90 posted on 12/19/2001 7:54:25 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks for your input re: scorcery. It doesn't necessarily have to be a chick flick, I liked Behind Enemy Lines (no flames, please, everyone-- I know the story had holes in it.) I'm coming from the latter camp you mentioned, my children don't read or watch Harry Potter.

Anyway, I may give it a shot and go see it.

91 posted on 12/19/2001 8:20:52 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: John Farson
Thanks.
92 posted on 12/19/2001 8:21:29 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: nutmeg
Bump for reading later...
93 posted on 12/19/2001 8:27:06 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: Darth Sidious
My fellow fictional bad guy - you are bang on in your review.

(did you see the preview for the new Time Machine? I'm psyched.)

94 posted on 12/19/2001 8:27:50 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Caligirl for Bush
We went to the 12:30 showing today, which was the 1st.
We noticed that the audience was largely men @ 17-50 years old. Lots of geeks! Happy geeks. Only one child in the theatre. A few families with older teenagers. But it must have been men 20:1 to women.
Heard a lot of snippets about playing hookey from work, LOL
95 posted on 12/19/2001 8:36:03 PM PST by Cascadians
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To: Cascadians
Glad to hear about the men-to-women ratio... I will be sure to dress nice and wear mascara. ;~D

Waterproof of course.

96 posted on 12/19/2001 8:58:56 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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Orcs makeup stolen from the bog witch in Legend.

Replacing hobbits with jar jar binks would not change movie noticibly.

Replacing hobbits with cute widdle pwuppies would not change movie noticbly.

All elves look like the guys in Nelson.

Hobbits unable to refrain from touching each other.

Cate Blanchett: Why?

Liv Tyler: hubba hubba

Hugo Weaving: cool to see him expand (a bit) from The Matrix

final judgement: See it! go to a BIG theater, sit WAY back.

97 posted on 12/19/2001 9:02:21 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: HairOfTheDog
You reminded us: one of our great reliefs was that neither one of us cried much, armed as we were with kleenex and baggies. We're a long-time married couple, and husband was impressed with Aragorn-Boromir scene and Galadriel; wife still thinking about those trees in Lothlorien. Both still in a swoon of happiness about this movie. Sure we could nitpick but we'd rather just go see it again tomorrow -- if we can get in. The LINE when we came out ... !!!
98 posted on 12/19/2001 9:05:48 PM PST by Cascadians
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To: Darth Sidious
Wow, awesome review! I can't wait to see the movie. Couldn't get tickets for tonight, and with the holidays I won't have a chance to go until next Wednesday. But I've already prepurchased my tickets!
99 posted on 12/19/2001 9:31:30 PM PST by malakhi
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To: ecurbh
Thank you for putting me on your list! The earliest I can see this film next week, once Christmas is over. For now I'll have to content myself with reading these reviews, LOL.
100 posted on 12/19/2001 10:27:58 PM PST by Rainbow Rising
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