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Concerts to Raise Money For Battle Against Record Companies.
The Sacremento Bee | 12/19/01 | Unknown

Posted on 12/19/2001 4:51:59 PM PST by The Drowning Witch

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Elton John, No Doubt and the Eagles are among a group of musicians who will perform at five benefit concerts the night before the Grammy Awards telecast to raise money for a legislative fight against the record industry.

The Recording Artists Coalition, a trade group representing more than 100 entertainers, has booked several sites in Los Angeles for the Feb. 26 concerts.

Money raised from the concerts will help fund an offensive against the major record labels for allegedly denying musicians a share of royalty earnings.

Courtney Love and the Dixie Chicks are embroiled in their own legal battle accusing their labels of exploiting them financially and locking them into long-term contracts.

"It's about time for artists to take control of their work and how it is presented to our fans," said Dexter Holland of the band Offspring, which will perform as part of the effort.

Record companies deny the allegations and say musicians are receiving a fair share of revenue and royalties The five shows will feature different genres - pop, alternative, rhythm and blues, hard rock and country music.

Other artists confirmed for the performances include Billy Joel, Stevie Nicks, Weezer, Dixie Chicks and Ozzy Osbourne. More artists were expected to join the list in coming weeks.

Grammy chief Michael Greene said he is supportive of the concerts.

"I would absolutely not support this if I thought it was just an in-your-face thing against the labels," Greene said.

The tentative lineup is Billy Joel, Sheryl Crow, the Eagles, Dixie Chicks and Stevie Nicks at the Forum in Inglewood; Offspring, No Doubt, Weezer at the Long Beach Convention Center; Ozzy Osborne at the Los Angeles Sports Arena; rhythm and blues acts to be announced at the Universal Amphitheatre; and country artists at an undetermined fifth site.


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Speaking as a former whore of the music business, and knowing how it works, I'm glad to see something like this being undertaken...

Witch

1 posted on 12/19/2001 4:51:59 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
Could these artists go for a (reasonable) pay per download MP3 plan?

If the RIAA had drafted Napster instead of killing it the artists and the RIAA would be collecting megabucks.

2 posted on 12/19/2001 4:57:33 PM PST by LibKill
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To: LibKill
Yeah, LibKill, The RIAA really screwed the pooch on that one. I remember back in the early 90's, when Rolling Stone did a big story on the emergence of the MP3 technology, and to their credit, they may have been onto something when they said that the genie was about to be released from the bottle.

Unfortunately, the record companies were so paniced by the potential loss of revenues, they never stopped to think of the dividends if they had made a deal way back then.

Guess they were still freaked by the blank tape tax/PMRC fiasco in the mid eighties...

3 posted on 12/19/2001 5:04:45 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
I seem to recall that some time ago Elton John said that he had enough money, and that any new proceeds due him would go to some AIDS charity or something. Sounds like Elton has changed his tune.
4 posted on 12/19/2001 5:08:26 PM PST by citizenK
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To: The Drowning Witch
Huge shakeout IF.... they can pull this off!

(Unfortunately, I doubt it though....)

We'll see, and BEST of luck!

5 posted on 12/19/2001 5:14:35 PM PST by No!
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To: The Drowning Witch
I was recording tapes (ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO RECORD A PUBLIC RADIO BROADCAST FOR PRIVATE USE) way before personal computers, modems, Intenet, and MP3 My point is this. The RIAA screwed the pooch. Big time. When the RIAA started the lawsuit, Napster was the only game in town. If the RIAA had made a deal then, they would have been the Dealer. RIAA would have been in control and would have made more money than ever. Instead they killed the Golden Goose. FLAMES: Go ahead and flame me for 'theft' etc. But realize that if the RIAA had not cut the throat of Napster, RIAA could have made megabucks off Napster. This is all history. RIAA killed Napster. While being murdered Napster gave birth to Gnotella, LimeWire, Groxter, Morpheus, KaZaA and a billion other children of Napster. All because they were too cheap to share a tiny portion of profits with Napster. Moral, You can't screw the Intenet, but you can collect on it if you are'nt totalitarian.
6 posted on 12/19/2001 5:29:23 PM PST by LibKill
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To: No!
Those hacks at the RIAA are worse than liberals when it comes to money. Everything they see is veiwed thru static, instead of dynamic lenses...

Worse still, they seem to operate under the assumption that all the money was theirs' from the beginning...

7 posted on 12/19/2001 5:33:16 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: LibKill
I totally agree. So now instead of genie, now the RIAA is, in effect, trying to put an elephant back in a tube of toothpaste...

With some of the advances these record companies are throwing around to up and coming artists these days, they are basically trying to fight the inflation of their own short-sighted business practices.

Just like Congress....
I have no sympathy for them.

8 posted on 12/19/2001 5:40:10 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
Nor should you have any sympathy. Intellectual property was meant by the Founders to have limited protection. The extensions of copyright are a travesty of this intention. Now these pukes want to put a Big Brother chip in evry computer. It is entirely right and proper to put your privacy and fair use rights ahead of their ability to continue to rip off both artists and customers.
9 posted on 12/19/2001 5:44:35 PM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
Allow me to clarify, eno_,...

Nor should you have any sympathy. Intellectual property was meant by the Founders to have limited protection. The extensions of copyright are a travesty of this intention. Now these pukes want to put a Big Brother chip in evry computer. It is entirely right and proper to put your privacy and fair use rights ahead of their ability to continue to rip off both artists and customers.

My point is that the RIAA could have headed just such a discombobulation off at the head off the pass by just dealing from the get-go. By wanting to protect their confiscatory recoupment of royalties practices in regards to advances, they created this problem themselves. The millions of dollars advances basically indenture the artists to the tune of millions of dollars, all against future record sales.

Now while your average artist is by no means a lawyer, the record companies employ hundreds of them. Fair use is one thing, but by failing to negotiate in the beginning, all parties end up the losers...

There just had to be a way for everyone to make some money, and for us to get music at a fair price....

Sorry if that doesn't make sense. I'm kinda working from a prejudiced POV...

10 posted on 12/19/2001 6:15:58 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch;Central Scrutiniser;KLT;DAGO;Hillary's Lovely Legs;palo verde;all
BUMP!!!
11 posted on 12/19/2001 6:26:28 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
one more BUMP....
12 posted on 12/19/2001 6:35:21 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
bump for bankrupt musicians....
13 posted on 12/19/2001 7:00:15 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
The music industry has a long and colorful history of shafting the artists who make the music, it's nice to see the artists finally fighting back after being so shafted for so long. From "Lola vs. Powerman and the money-go-round" to "Zantz kant dance" to Mark Mothersbaugh saying to a crowd at a concert "I bet you're wondering why we're all sitting down? Just to prove we still can after ten years in this business!" the message has been loud and clear, artists get shafted.

I listen to nothing but music I get for free from MP3.com - there are literally thousands and thousands of musicians who would rather give away their music for free, instead of getting screwed by record companies. Check out Enravota, or Tapping the Vein, or Dog Fashion Disco or The Boswells, Ultra Velvet, Triangleman, Weak, Artilect, If 6 was 9, Temple of Rain, UVVU or any one of the thousands of artists on MP3. All music done without coke addled "producers" or psychotic "managers" or bean-counting "financial experts" who "advise" the artists on how best to sell their "product". Who needs the music industry? Let them go the way of the buggy whip.

14 posted on 12/19/2001 7:16:09 PM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Sadly, Billy, as long as there are musicians who want to play music for a living, there are gonna be record companies who want a piece, all the while whispering in the artist's ear that they could be selling more records and making more money than what they get from live performances.

Selling a product, even music, requires capital, and more's the pity....

All those artists you mentioned above should be getting paid. And not thru a record company....

15 posted on 12/19/2001 7:36:26 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
I wish them luck
all any artist wants is for his work to get out there
and to live comfortably
Love, Palo
16 posted on 12/19/2001 7:41:00 PM PST by palo verde
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To: palo verde
All I ever wanted to do was get paid and play music, lass...I could do it still, but it's just not possible anymore...
17 posted on 12/19/2001 8:02:06 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
BUMP. Most of the musicians who would find this interesting are off on the daily struggle for the legal tender.(props to Jackson Browne for "The Pretender")

For those musicians who are between gigs tonight, or those ex-musicians who still remember what a bitch the business was, comments welcome, because it finally made the front page of my local rag's "Living" section this morning...

18 posted on 12/21/2001 2:53:55 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
last BUMP
19 posted on 12/21/2001 3:33:32 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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