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A Christmas Birthday
E-Mail ^ | 12/20/01 | Unknown

Posted on 12/20/2001 1:43:03 PM PST by Zorobabel

A Christmas Birthday Party ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

WIFE TO HUSBAND: Darling! I have decided to have a big birthday party for you!

HUSBAND: Wonderful!

WIFE: On December 25th.

HUSBAND: That's not my birthday.

WIFE: I know, I know, but we'll just SAY it's your birthday.

HUSBAND: That's your ex-boyfriend's birthday!

WIFE: That's okay, I have decided to call it your birthday.

HUSBAND: No, its not okay. Why don't you just pick any day that is NOT your ex-boy friend's birthday? Aren't you interested in what is true? In what is pleasing to me? Even enough to find out my real birth date?

WIFE: Now, now, don't get upset. I have decided that we'll just SAY it is your birthday. I've sent out the invitations and everybody is doing it so that makes it okay. HUSBAND: It does?

WIFE: Yes, and you wouldn't want me to change the date and inconvenience anyone. I have decided it is okay.

HUSBAND: You've decided. I would be pleased if you would just take my hand and follow me and spend a few moments with me.

WIFE: Later, later. No time now. I have invited ALL the family. My Father and Mother and Uncle Bill and Cousin Betty and Ernie and all the kids and grandkids and, Oh, the children will love it! We'll do it for the children! They deserve it!

HUSBAND: For the children. I see, a day to exalt family...and you call it my birthday. Makes me think you love family more than me.

WIFE: Oh, you'll love it, too, I have decided. And we'll all give gifts to each other.

HUSBAND: This is supposed to be MY birthday? Yet you give gifts to others? Why?

WIFE: And I'll decorate the house...red ribbons and bows and...

HUSBAND: Red? Red is your ex-boyfriend's favorite color! I like blue and green. Blue skies, blue seas, green grass, trees, birds...

WIFE: Oh, I'm putting up a green tree decorated with gold and silver balls and we'll put gifts under it!

HUSBAND: Like the idolators throughout history....every green tree... That is idolatry.

WIFE: And I'll have to buy gifts and do lots of shopping and...

HUSBAND: ...so the God of Mammon will get his.

WIFE: It will be worth it! I'll decorate and bake cookies and fruitcake and...

HUSBAND: Sounds like you'll be really busy. Come away my beloved and spend a little time with me...a walk by the river, a...

WIFE: Later, darling. I'll be busy, but you'll love it...I've decided.
The hustle, the bustle...oh, yes, and I've decided to have a nice baked ham...

HUSBAND: Charred swine's flesh! On what you SAY is my birthday and is not!
Who is in charge here? Why do you just do YOUR THING and assume that I will put my stamp of approval on it? If you love me, why do you not DO the things that I say? Why do you not do things MY WAY? You don't even KNOW me!
I suppose the next thing you'll do is dress your ex-boyfriend in a red suit and have him drop down the chimney!

WIFE: Uhhhh. __________ Shalom __________


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Merry Christmas.
1 posted on 12/20/2001 1:43:03 PM PST by Zorobabel
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To: Zorobabel
I plan to celebrate the un-Birthday of Jesus by kissing the feet of statues of the Pope and the goddess Mary, and burning Protestant babies in front of the statues, with lots of incense, while singing in the dead language of a pagan empire, and fingering beads.
2 posted on 12/20/2001 1:59:28 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
"I plan to celebrate the un-Birthday of Jesus by kissing the feet of statues of the Pope and the goddess Mary, and burning Protestant babies in front of the statues, with lots of incense, while singing in the dead language of a pagan empire, and fingering beads. "

Well that reply ought to get the thread off to a lively start.

3 posted on 12/20/2001 2:17:50 PM PST by Zorobabel
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To: Arthur McGowan
Good Grief! Don't ya think your comment is ....Hmmmm..kinda Out There? A bit Over the Top? Geeezz!
4 posted on 12/20/2001 2:40:43 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Zorobabel

"Should Christians celebrate Christmas?" or, "How should a Christian celebrate Christmas?" These are questions of concern for many sincere believers. In fact, many believers dislike the season and have refused to celebrate it at all. A number of reasons are given, and while I might agree with some of their concerns and some of the reasons offered against the observance of Christmas, I would not necessarily agree with their conclusions.  http://www.bible.org/docs/pastor/seasonal/xmas/argument.htm
One day I happened to catch a TV preacher denouncing the celebration of Christmas. He was saying it is pagan holiday, and that Christ could not have born in December. He used some Old Testament passages to show how the Christmas tree was idolatrous and an abomination. He quoted Jeremiah 10:2-4 which reads:

2 Thus says the LORD, "Do not learn the way of the nations, And do not be terrified by the signs of the heavens Although the nations are terrified by them; 3 For the customs of the peoples are delusion; Because it is wood cut from the forest, The work of the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool. 4 "They decorate it with silver and with gold; They fasten it with nails and with hammers so that it will not totter.

Then he quoted Isaiah 44:14-15:

Isaiah 44:14-15 Surely he cuts cedars for himself, and takes a cypress or an oak, and raises it for himself among the trees of the forest. He plants a fir, and the rain makes it grow. 15 Then it becomes something for a man to burn, so he takes one of them and warms himself; he also makes a fire to bake bread. He also makes a god and worships it; he makes it a graven image, and falls down before it. (NASB)

Finally, he quoted Jeremiah 3:13:

Only acknowledge your iniquity, That you have transgressed against the Lord your God And have scattered your favors to the strangers under every green tree, And you have not obeyed My voice,‘ declares the Lord.

It seems that the points of reference for this preacher were to "wood cut from the forest," "they decorate it with silver and gold," "he plants a fir" (an evergreen tree), "scattered your favors . . . under every green tree," and "falls down before it." The preacher went on to say, that at Christmas people take an evergreen tree cut from the forest; they decorate it with ornaments of silver and gold, and then fall down before it when they place their presents under the tree. His conclusion was that this is idolatry.

If this weren't so sad, it would be hilarious, but sincere people hear this and become concerned. As a pastor, I have had people ask me questions such as, "Are we wrong to celebrate Christmas?" "Is this idolatry?" "What should we do about celebrating Christmas?"

It is this mentality that I will address in this study. How should believers respond to such questions and to the criticism leveled against the celebration of Christmas and the Christmas season? Is it scripturally wrong to celebrate Christmas? Is it pagan?

Everywhere we go during the season, the signs of Christmas are there with all their glitter, tinsel, lights, greenery, cards, festivities, carols, bells, Santas, manger scenes, angels, trees and presents--and the push by Madison Avenue and the gimmicks of the retailers. The Christmas season either makes or breaks many businesses.

Should we play the part of Scrooge and say, "bah humbug!"? Should we call attention to the fact that certain of our Christmas traditions such as the yule log, the decorated tree, and mistletoe each have their roots in pagan festivals? Should we assert that celebrateChristmas is to promote paganism and materialism and thus is just not the biblical thing to do?

I personally do not agree with that conclusion. In this short study, we will take a look at some of the arguments and issues and consider some of the biblical options open to us as believers.

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5 posted on 12/20/2001 3:00:07 PM PST by Texas Yellow Rose
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To: Arthur McGowan
Thank you. I really needed that. Best post of the day. Best thread of the week.
6 posted on 12/20/2001 3:01:52 PM PST by mlmr
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To: Texas Yellow Rose
And here is another thread on that very same topic, just posted today also. December 25th
7 posted on 12/20/2001 3:08:50 PM PST by Zorobabel
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To: Fiddlstix
Good Grief! Don't ya think your comment is ....Hmmmm..kinda Out There? A bit Over the Top? Geeezz!

Uh, Arthur was in an ironic/sarcastic mode, stix.

Saw the same "not getting it" last night on a thread. 'Tis a pity that clever writing, meant as parody, gets taken wrong.

You may not know that Arthur is a staunch defender of the Roman Catholic Church.

He was just funnin' y'all.

8 posted on 12/20/2001 3:14:28 PM PST by don-o
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To: Zorobabel
Cookies go better with milk, the meat will chock the babies.

II Timothy 2:15 - Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

One more thing to ask yourself is, is it a work of the flesh to be obedient to the word of GOD? Don't think so
9 posted on 12/20/2001 3:30:55 PM PST by heavenbound
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To: heavenbound
Ooops! chock is spelled choke
10 posted on 12/20/2001 3:33:23 PM PST by heavenbound
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To: Arthur McGowan
LOL. Merry Christmas, Arthur.
11 posted on 12/20/2001 3:39:08 PM PST by riley1992
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To: Arthur McGowan
while singing in the dead language

My pastor hates it when I sing in the dead language, but I love to do it. I have to chant the Christmas Proclamation this year, I wish I had it in the dead language, I don't enjoy singing in the venacular.

12 posted on 12/20/2001 3:54:35 PM PST by pbear8
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To: heavenbound
I'm not sure why you posted those particular scriptures to me, but then a lot of what gets posted on FR is similarly obtuse, or perhaps it's me. However, here is another thread in the same vein Why Christmas Should Be More Commercial
13 posted on 12/20/2001 4:06:58 PM PST by Zorobabel
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To: don-o; Arthur McGowan
....... and burning Protestant babies in front of the statues,........

I Understand what you are saying......
BUT!
Look at that part of his response......
Now....
That IS a "Bit Much" for parody...
Doncha Think?

I mean.. Hell.. Why Didn't ya just say "Jewish Babies" and be done with it?
15 posted on 12/20/2001 9:01:15 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: don-o
Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
16 posted on 12/21/2001 5:50:29 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Arthur McGowan;texaggie79;howlin;lazamataz
You really are A+Bert, aren't you?
17 posted on 12/21/2001 5:53:50 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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