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To: Mark Bahner
I don't see many Islamic countries where tolerance for others is permitted or individual freedom is allowed at all. The Koran is quite specific on what is to be done with Christians and Jews and other infidels. The Koran directs Muslims to place a tax on Christians. Only one majority Muslim country has any tolerance at all ---Turkey and only because the government controls Islam.

I just don't see how someone can believe in the Koran and it's exact opposite at the same time. I think Christians, Jews, and atheists can be libertarians because there is a concept of separation of Church and State in those religions. The US Constitution was designed by people from Christian countries and that wasn't accidental because only Judeo-Christian beliefs would led to the belief in rights given to man by their Creator.

37 posted on 01/04/2002 5:46:36 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
I just don't see how someone can believe in the Koran and it's exact opposite at the same time.

--- I've seen that to a certain extent all of us hold contradicting views on politics/religion. That's what 'faith' vs reason is all about, right?

I think Christians, Jews, and atheists can be libertarians because there is a concept of separation of Church and State in those religions.

--- As Mark mentioned above, there does appear to be some 'voluntary' tradition in accepting islam. Maybe this guy believes that way? Are you claiming he can not?

The US Constitution was designed by people from Christian countries and that wasn't accidental because only Judeo-Christian beliefs would led to the belief in rights given to man by their Creator.

I think you're wrong on that .
Rights are self evident in our free will, which everyone has, regardless of their religious beliefs, or the lack of them.

39 posted on 01/04/2002 7:03:40 AM PST by tpaine
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In a country in which the overwhelming majority of the population was muslim, a muslim political party probably would impose sharia (islamic law). However the U.S. government is not Muslim and lacks the legal authority to impose sharia. Therefore it makes sense for American Muslims to want the U.S. government to leave people alone. Any authoritarian rules would have to be self imposed.
91 posted on 01/04/2002 11:29:40 AM PST by ganesha
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