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I Pledge allegiance to the Confederate Flag
Dixienews.com ^ | December 24, 2001 | Lake E. High, Jr.

Posted on 12/24/2001 4:25:26 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa

I Pledge allegiance to the Confederate Flag, and to the Southern People and the Culture for which it stands

by Lake E. High, Jr.

The Confederate flag is again under attack, as it has always been, and as it always will be. It is under attack because of what it symbolizes. The problem is that to many Southerners have forgotten just what it does symbolize.

The Confederate Nation of 1860 - 1865 was the intellectual, as well as the spiritual, continuation of the United States of America as founded, planned, and formed by Southerners. It was the stated, and often repeated, position of almost all Southerners in the 1860’s that they, and the South, were the heirs of the original political theory embodied in the U. S. Constitution of 1789. In 1860 their attempted to separate from the rest of the states and form their own nation since that was the only way the South could preserve the philosophy and the virtues that had made the United States the magnificent nation it had become.

In both of these contentions, that is, the South was the true repository of the original political theory that made the United States great, and the South was the true home of the people who took the necessary actions to found, make, and preserve the original United States, Southerners have been proven by the passage of time to be correct.

The Southern colonies of Virginia, North and South Carolina and Maryland were where the majority of the original American population resided until the 1700’s despite the fact Massachusetts was settled only 13 years after Virginia and New York was settled 18 years before South Carolina. As the population of the colonies grew, the New England States and the middle Atlantic states, gained population so that by the time of the American Revolutionary War the two general areas of the north and the South were generally equal in size with a small population advantage being shown by Virginia. This slight difference in population by a southern state was to have a profound effect on the development of the United States.

First of all, the New England states managed to start a war with England, which they verbalized as "taxation without representation." In truth the problem from their point of view was the taxes on their trade. Having started the war they then promptly managed to lose it. The British, after conquering the entire north from Maine (then part of Massachusetts) to Boston, to Providence, to New York, to the new nation’s capital, Philadelphia, shifted their military forces to move against the Southern colonies. They secured their foothold in the South by capturing Savannah and Charleston and then proceeded to move inland to subdue the Southern population. They planed to catch the Virginia forces under General Washington in a coordinated attack moving down from the north, which they held, and up from the South that they thought they would also conquer.

The British army that had mastered the north found they could not defeat the Southern people. Once in the backwoods of the South they found themselves to be the beaten Army. The British defeats at Kings Mountain and Cowpens were absolute. Their Pyrrhic victories at Camden and Guilford Courthouse were tantamount to defeat. In both North Carolina and South Carolina they were so weakened they had to retreat from the area of their few "victories" within days. Their defeats at those well-known sites among others, along with their defeat at Yorktown in Virginia, led directly to their surrender.

Having secured the political freedom from England for all the colonists, Southerners then mistakenly sat back and took a smaller role in forming the new American government that operated under an "Articles of Confederation." That first attempt at forming a government fell to the firebrands of New England who has started the war and who still asserted their moral position of leadership despite their poor showing on the field of battle. These Articles of Confederation, the product of the Yankee political mind, gave too much economic self determination to the separate colonies (as the Northern colonies had demanded in an attempt to protect their shipping, trade and manufacturing) and too little power of enforcement to a central government.

After a period of six difficult years, when the Articles of Confederation failed as a form of government, another convention was called and a new form of government was drawn up. This time the convention was under the leadership of Southerners and they brought forth the document we all refer to as the U.S. Constitution. Even northern historians do not try to pretend the Constitution and the ideas embodied therein are anything other than a product of the Southern political mind. (Yankee historians cannot deny it, but they do choose to ignore it so their students grow up ignorant of the fact that the Constitution is Southern.) So, as it turns out, when the new nation found itself in political trouble it was the South which, once again, came to the rescue just as it had when the nation found itself previously in military trouble.

With the slight population advantage it enjoyed over other states, Virginia was able to give to the new nation politicians who are nothing short of demigods. Their names are revered in all areas of the civilized world wherever political theorists converge. Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Randolph, Henry, Taylor and Monroe are just a few, there are many more. These men along with the leading political minds of South Carolina, Rutledge, Heyward, and, most importantly, Pinckney, saw their new nation through its birth and establishment.

The military leadership, as well as the political leadership, of the South saw the nation through its expansion. Under Southern leadership the British were defeated a second time in 1814. Under Southerners, most obviously John Tyler and Andrew Jackson, Florida was added as a state. The defeat of Mexico in 1846, under the Southern leadership of James Polk and numerous Southern military officers, established of the United States as a force to be feared. That was an astonishing accomplishment for so small and so young a nation

Thomas Jefferson, who added the Louisiana Purchase, barely escaped impeachment for his efforts. The north argued continuously against the war with Mexico that added the area from Texas to California just as they had argued against the Louisiana Purchase. One Congressman from Illinois, Abraham Lincoln, was particularly vehement against Texas being made a state. Northerners, having seen Mexico defeated and the United States enlarged all the way to the Pacific Ocean, then objected to the methods and motives of the acquisition of the Washington and Oregon territories in the northwest. Polk, who had added that vast area from Louisiana to California to Colorado to the pacific northwest, served only one term as President due to the constant attacks he sufferer in the Northern press. Left to the people of the north, the French would still control from Minnesota to Louisiana and Mexico would control from Texas to the Pacific while Canada would still include Washington, Oregon Idaho and Montana.

Every square inch of soil that now comprises the continental United States was added under a Southern president, and they did it over the strenuous political objections of the north. The provincial and mercenary Yankee people fought every effort to expand the United States. The expansion of the United States became a regional political disagreement that spread ill feeling north and South. Its accomplishment by Southerners was no small feat. It was accomplished under Southern military leadership and with much Southern blood. (Which is why Tennessee is called "The Volunteer State" and the names of Southerners are almost exclusively the only ones found on memorial tablets and monuments from Texas to California.). The expansion of the original colonies into the continental power it became was completely the results of the Southern mind and Southern leadership.

Having secured the freedom of the United States from England and then having formed and led the successful government into a new political age under a written constitution that is still the envy of the whole world, the South gave the entire military and political leadership that formed the United States into the boundaries it now enjoys. But these magnificent accomplishments were soon to be overshadowed by population shifts and the ensuing results that brings in a representative government. By the early 1820s the north had finally secured just enough additional population that it had achieved enough political clout to start protecting its first love, its money. The unfair and punitive tariffs that were passed in 1828 led to the South’s first half-hearted attempt to form its own separate government with the Nullification movement of 1832. The threat of war that South Carolina held out in 1832 then caused a negotiated modification of those laws to where the South could live with them. For the time being, the political question was settled by compromise.

While those changes pacified the political leaders of the South for the time being, some statesmen could see, even then, that if the North ever became totally dominant politically, the South would be destroyed, not just economically, but philosophically and spiritually as well. Those statesmen, with Calhoun in the lead, then started planting the intellectual seeds that led to the South’s second attempt at political freedom in 1860.

Unfortunately, in the 1840’s Yankee abolitionist introduced the new poison of the "voluntary end" of slavery as a political issue. There were attempts by many Southerners to defuse this situation by offering an economic solution. That is, Southerners offered to end slavery in the South just as England had ended it in the West Indies, by having the slave-holders paid for their losses when the slaves were freed. The abolitionist Yankees would have none of that. Their position was simple, the South could give up it slaves for free and each farmer could absorb the loss personally. There was to be no payment. To the Yankee abolitionists it was either their way or war.

The fact that the abolitionist movement became a dominant presence in the northern part of the United States from the 1840’s on is primarily because a liberal can politicize any subject and enrage any body of people regardless of the level of preexisting good will. (As current liberals have turned the simple good sense argument that one should not litter one’s own environment into the political upheaval of "the ecology movement." The effectiveness of liberal methods can currently be seen in the simple instance that most people believe such nonsense as the chemical cause of "ozone depletion" and "the greenhouse effect" despite any evidence of either. Liberals are absolutely capable, by their strident, activist natures of raising any question to harmful emotional heights.)

Unfortunately, the loss of the War for Southern Independence in 1865 caused the very thing that Southern statesmen had foreseen in the 1830’s; that is, the north became dominant and the cultural, spiritual, and economic base of the South was decimated. The loss of the war was most severely felt in the South, of course, but it has also had political repercussions in the north as well.

Without the South in a position of dominance, the leadership of the United States has gone from Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Tyler and Polk to the inept, or leftist, Grant, Harding, Arthur, Harrison and Roosevelt, among others. Plus, the ascendancy of the leftist north to national prominence has also caused the rise of leaders in the South who had to be acceptable to the north. Such spectacularly immoral or totally incompetent Southern politicians as Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton are examples of the quality of the men that the South must now produce to garner northern votes. When these modern day jackals are contrasted with the demigods the South produced when unfettered by the northern voter, that in itself should be enough to make all people reject northern philosophy and northern politics and embrace all things Southern.

As the forces of the left have gained ascendancy in the United States, the pressure intensifies to completely obliterate anything that remains between them and complete leftist victory. That means that the traditional enemy of leftists, the South, must be erased in its every form. That is why leftists always demand that even symbols of the South be eradicated.

We, therefore, now have a coalition of people who want the Southern flag taken down and hidden from public view. This coalition is composed of three main groups. First of all are African-Americans, whose emotional position is totally unmitigated by any knowledge of history. Secondly, there are Yankees who have moved to the South and who, despite their remarkable political failures in their own states, have learned nothing and continue to vote leftist here too. Or either these northern imports have been transferred here to run the newspapers that are owned by the people who live outside the South. And, thirdly, there are leftist Southerners, or Southerners of "politically correct" leaning, who have apparently learned their history from the television and movies and who feel the South is a bad place because it is not egalitarian enough.

But the demands of this coalition of political thinkers need to be put in proper perspective. Before anyone starts to tell someone else how to act and how to think, it is incumbent on him to demonstrate the success of his own ideas and actions. So far the introduction and enforcement of leftist ideas in our world has led to nothing but sorrow and degeneration. The force necessary to make people live under a leftist government has been the direct cause of the murder of over one hundred million people in this century alone. Leftist political theory has enslaved and impoverished billions of people worldwide. Its introduction has weakened even such great nations as England and France and reduced them to the status of third rate nations. Socialism in Scandinavia has reduced it to an economic level even less than that of England. In the United States leftist ideas have turned our country into the increasingly sick society it has become.

So until this coalition of leftist can point to a single successful instance of where their leftist philosophy has improved a country, or a people, rather than to the spectacular political failures the left has precipitated in any place into which its poisonous philosophy has been introduced, they have no right to demand anything of anybody. Leftist, the most spectacular political failures in all of history, have no standing to demand that Southerners accept anything that flows from their false philosophy. And of all people, leftist have the least demand on Southerners, the people who formed, guided, expanded and gave them a great country.

The Confederate flag is a symbol. It stands for the people who had the spirit, the courage, and the intelligence to give the world its greatest governmental entity. As long as the Confederate flag flies there is hope that the terrible scourge leftists have placed on the world will pass. It represents the culture that produced the most wished for, the most just, and the finest political system on earth. And as long as the Confederate flies there is hope that the greatness that was once ours may someday be reestablished.


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To: WhiskeyPapa
Thanks for giving us this ray of light & bit of truth on Christmas eve!

Aw, Shucks!

101 posted on 12/24/2001 8:21:12 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: WhiskeyPapa
2000 Electoral Map

Communist and Socialist states shown in Blue.

102 posted on 12/24/2001 8:21:22 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Leesylvanian
Hey, what the?!?!?!? The reply is missing a bracketed b and /b that would make it make more sense. WhiskeyPapa, rested assured that I wasn't adding a sentence to your quote and calling it part of your quote, it was simply a technical error.
103 posted on 12/24/2001 8:23:37 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: WhiskeyPapa
The fact is that the rebellion of the southern states was not only outside US law, it was also completely unjustified.

Those Southerners who took up arms and put their lives on the line disagree with you as to whether it was unjustified. That it was deemed justified by the men of that time according to their sense of honor, self determination, justice, is the only lense through which that terrible war's precipitation, can be judged, and it is through that same lense that the munificence of the Union in it's resolution must be appreciated.

It is wrong to attempt to apply modern conventions of morality to judging whether historical figures were "good" or "bad" in the modern sense. Abe Lincoln was a racist of the first order, as his many now published letters show, yet he was and remains "good" for the accomplishments of his time.

It is this anachronistic judgementalism which leads to such things a banning Huckleberry Finn, because of the "N" word, despite the story's clearly noble portrayal of Jim. I believe that your seeming eagerness to retry Johnny Rebel, based on the sentiments you may feel towards our contemporary, Johnny Walker is of the same misguided anachronisizing (neoligism?).

Live for today. Hang Walker. Let the brave soldiers of the South rest in peace. Learn to appreciate the wisdom of your ancestral betters.

104 posted on 12/24/2001 8:24:00 AM PST by Wm Bach
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To: Wm Bach
Amen!!! Can't be said any better!!!
105 posted on 12/24/2001 8:26:20 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: Leesylvanian
Ditto, you should know that Normandy was a third front, opened for political purposes to keep our Soviet "allies" happy,

No, Italy, like North Africa, was a 'second front' openned to keep Stalin quiet. Both were poorly planned and equipped. Operation 'Overlord' was being planned long before the Italian campaign. There was never any consideration that US and British forces would be able to strike into Germany, across the Alps from Italy. Normandy was the end game plan from the beginning. Even Hitler understood that the invasion would be through France. He simple didn't consider the beaches of Normandy to be the likely invasion point.

107 posted on 12/24/2001 8:33:02 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Non-Sequitur
Plenty of Lee's in Virginia, today. I've met a few and know of plenty of others. Your point?
108 posted on 12/24/2001 8:34:16 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: WhiskeyPapa
If you think it such drek, perhaps not posting it would be better than posting it and calling it drek.
109 posted on 12/24/2001 8:35:16 AM PST by Hagrid
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To: ConfederateMissouri;viligantcitizen; LadyJD;ouroboros;mrswasp69;WhowasGustavusFox...
Hey y'all! It looks like the ol' Scrooge himself has fallen into a bit of Christmas spirit & given us this 1999 blast from the past. Enjoy!
110 posted on 12/24/2001 8:36:52 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Is this really the best you can do?

... The nation purchased, with money, the countries out of which several of these states were formed. Is it just that they shall go off without leave, and without refunding? ...

The vicious Southerners wanted to negotiate a financial settlement with the North. THEY recognized their obligations. Lincoln essentially ignored a Southern delegation, led by Martin Crawford, sent to Washington for the purpose of negotiating some sort of settlement. I guess they just forgot to tell us about this in our high school history classes. And "Honest Abe" pretends to know nothing of it.

If we ... allow the seceders to go in peace ...

Can't allow anyone to go in peace could we? What a foolish idea!

If all the states, save one, should assert the power to drive that one out of the Union ...

Translation: Since we really don't have much of a leg to stand on about a State voluntarily leaving the Union, let's change the subject and discuss whether we could force a State OUT of the Union.

A. Lincoln, 7/4/01

01?

You really need to read more to supplement the brain washing you got in high school. I suggest Perkin's Northern Editorials on Secession or Fremantle's Three Months in the Southern States.

ML/NJ (who never lived south of the 40th parallel, and reverently memorized the Gettysburg address as a teen.)

111 posted on 12/24/2001 8:37:57 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Do you know where that Lee quote from #32 comes from? I haven't studied Lee at all. The quote is intriguing.

I just got a pair of books from 1929 (originals). One is called Abraham Lincoln: The Path To His Presidency, A Cartoon History. The other is called Abraham Lincoln: The Year Of His Election, A Cartoon History. Both are by a man named Albert Shaw. I am looking into these books to see what they are worth. As for their content, they are well written, illustrated historical accounts of the period. Real treasures on that account.

AND I am finally going to dig into McCullough's John Adams. Very exciting. Just thought I'd share my thirst for American history with you. MERRY CHRISTMAS, WhiskeyPapa, and everyone else too.

--Huck

112 posted on 12/24/2001 8:39:03 AM PST by Huck
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
I was wondering when you would rear your hateful head. Unfortunately, I'm leaving work to enjoy the holidays with my family, so I won't have the pleasure for the next few days to witness your funny-for-the-ignorance replies, that is if you have the courage to stick around for more than one reply before the broadsides come your way.

Care to expound on why you're so familiar with the klan stuff?,/p>

113 posted on 12/24/2001 8:40:54 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: Godebert
Communist and Socialist states shown in Blue.

Really? None of those red states receive any taxpayer-funded subsidies, now, do they? Say, Iowa, or Kansas, or Nebraska? And now that I think of it, what's that red state over there? Is that...South Dakota? Refresh my memory. Is there a certain notable Senator from that state? Darple? Dumshle? Darchle? Something like that? And West Virginia? Seems like there is a famous Senator or two from there as well. Tyrd? Something like that?

Nah, I must be mistaken! Only the BLUE states have "socialists". Silly me.

114 posted on 12/24/2001 8:44:17 AM PST by Huck
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To: Ditto
Yes, Normandy was planned as the obvious end game, but the schedule is a bit controversial, with the hectoring of Stalin to his great buddy, FDR, the first socialist/anti-American president in a long line of Democraps. Did we really intend to go in early June, or was it pushed up? We may never know. Ike knew why he wanted it in June, but did he really know why FDR wanted it then? I'm not a conspiracy monger, do a search on my replies on those kinds of threads and you'll see I'm quite the opposite. I won't be replying until the 27th as I have to go now for the holidays. Maybe later if my wife goes into labor..."see" you later, and Merry Christmas.
115 posted on 12/24/2001 8:46:16 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: VinnyTex
Sober up there boy.

The southern states almost seceded in the late 1820s and early 1830s.. and slavery didn't have anything to do with it.

Read some history boy!
Slavery had everything to do with it.

Missouri Compromise (Compromise of 1820)

Missouri Compromise, legislative measures enacted by the United States Congress in 1820 that regulated the extension of slavery in the United States for three decades. When slaveholding Missourians applied for statehood in 1818, the long-standing balance of free and slave states (11 each) was jeopardized. A northern-sponsored amendment was then attached to the bill (1819) authorizing statehood; it prohibited the entry of slaves into Missouri and provided for the gradual emancipation of those already there. The proslavery faction was unable to prevent the bill's passage by the House of Representatives, where free states held a majority, but southern strength in the Senate defeated the bill.

Maine, then a part of Massachusetts, also applied for statehood in 1819. Speaker of the House Henry Clay of Kentucky warned northern congressmen that unless they changed their position on Missouri the southerners would reject Maine's petition. To please the South the slavery restrictions for Missouri were then removed, and to satisfy the North, Senator Jesse B. Thomas (1777-1853) of Illinois introduced (February 1820) a proviso by which slavery would be prohibited forever from Louisiana Purchase territories north of 36° 30'. Southern extremists opposed any limit on the extension of slavery, but Clay maneuvered the measure through the House by a three-vote majority. Missouri and Maine were to enter statehood simultaneously to preserve sectional equality in the Senate. In 1821, when northern congressmen balked over antiblack clauses in Missouri's constitution, Clay again adjusted differences, and Missouri's admission was ensured.

The compromise became precedent for settling subsequent North-South disagreements over slavery and tariff issues, and it remained in effect until repealed by the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854.

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It was always about slavery and the expansion of slavery to the West. There was big money in slaves.

116 posted on 12/24/2001 8:47:24 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Huck
The subsidies are funded through tax money raised from the citizens of the several states. What's your point? All states receive some subsidies, that's one of the advantages of a republican form of gov't.
117 posted on 12/24/2001 8:48:00 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: Wm Bach
Abe Lincoln was a racist of the first order

That is a senseless statement. It has no meaning. There may be a relevant fact in there somewhere, trying to get out. It failed. What does have meaning is this:

From Abraham Lincoln
Speech on the Kansas-Nebraska Act

October 16, 1854

Equal justice to the south, it is said, requires us to consent to the extending of slavery to new countries. That is to say, inasmuch as you do not object to my taking my hog to Nebraska, therefore I must not object to you taking your slave. Now, I admit this is perfectly logical, if there is no difference between hogs and negroes. But while you thus require me to deny the humanity of the negro, I wish to ask whether you of the south yourselves, have ever been willing to do as much? It is kindly provided that of all those who come into the world, only a small percentage are natural tyrants. That percentage is no larger in the slave States than in the free. The great majority, south as well as north, have human sympathies, of which they can no more divest themselves than they can of their sensibility to physical pain. These sympathies in the bosoms of the southern people, manifest in many ways, their sense of the wrong of slavery, and their consciousness that, after all, there is humanity in the negro. If they deny this, let me address them a few plain questions. In 1820 you joined the north, almost unanimously, in declaring the African slave trade piracy, and in annexing to it the punishment of death. Why did you do this? If you did not feel that it was wrong, why did you join in providing that men should be hung for it? The practice was no more than bringing wild negroes from Africa, to sell to such as would buy them. But you never thought of hanging men for catching and selling wild horses, wild buffaloes or wild bears.

Again, you have amongst you, a sneaking individual, of the class of native tyrants, known as the “SLAVE-DEALER.” He watches your necessities, and crawls up to buy your slave, at a speculating price. If you cannot help it, you sell to him; but if you can help it, you drive him from your door. You despise him utterly. You do not recognize him as a friend, or even as an honest man. Your children must not play with his; they may rollick freely with the little negroes, but not with the "slave-dealers" children. If you are obliged to deal with him, you try to get through the job without so much as touching him. It is common with you to join hands with the men you meet; but with the slave dealer you avoid the ceremony-instinctively shrinking from the snaky contact. If he grows rich and retires from business, you still remember him, and still keep up the ban of non-intercourse upon him and his family. Now why is this? You do not so treat the man who deals in corn, cattle or tobacco.

And yet again; there are in the United States and territories, including the District of Columbia, 433,643 free blacks. At $500 per head they are worth over two hundred millions of dollars. How comes this vast amount of property to be running about without owners? We do not see free horses or free cattle running at large. How is this? All these free blacks are the descendants of slaves, or have been slaves themselves, and they would be slaves now, but for SOMETHING which has operated on their white owners, inducing them, at vast pecuniary sacrifices, to liberate them. What is that SOMETHING? Is there any mistaking it? In all these cases it is your sense of justice, and human sympathy, continually telling you, that the poor negro has some natural right to himself-that those who deny it, and make mere merchandise of him, deserve kickings, contempt and death.

And now, why will you ask us to deny the humanity of the slave? and estimate him only as the equal of the hog? Why ask us to do what you will not do yourselves? Why ask us to do for nothing, what two hundred million of dollars could not induce you to do?

But one great argument in the support of the repeal of the Missouri Compromise, is still to come. That argument is “the sacred right of self government.” It seems our distinguished Senator has found great difficulty in getting his antagonists, even in the Senate to meet him fairly on this argument-some poet has said

“Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.”

At the hazzard of being thought one of the fools of this quotation, I meet that argument--I rush in, I take that bull by the horns.

I trust I understand, and truly estimate the right of self-government. My faith in the proposition that each man should do precisely as he pleases with all which is exclusively his own, lies at the foundation of the sense of justice there is in me. I extend the principles to communities of men, as well as to individuals. I so extend it, because it is politically wise, as well as naturally just: politically wise, in saving us from broils about matters which do not concern us. Here, or at Washington, I would not trouble myself with the oyster laws of Virginia, or the cranberry laws of Indiana.

The doctrine of self government is right--absolutely and eternally right--but it has no just application, as here attempted. Or perhaps I should rather say that whether it has such just application depends upon whether a negro is not or is a man. If he is not a man, why in that case, he who is a man may, as a matter of self-government, do just as he pleases with him. But if the negro is a man, is it not to that extent, a total destruction of self-government, to say that he too shall not govern himself? When the white man governs himself, and also governs another man, that is more than self-government--that is despotism. If the negro is a man, why then my ancient faith teaches me that “all men are created equal;” and that there can be no moral right in connection with one man's making a slave of another.

Judge Douglas frequently, with bitter irony and sarcasm, paraphrases our argument by saying “The white people of Nebraska are good enough to govern themselves, but they are not good enough to govern a few miserable negroes!!”

Well I doubt not that the people of Nebraska are, and will continue to be as good as the average of people elsewhere. I do not say the contrary. What I do say is, that no man is good enough to govern another man, without the other's consent. I say this is the leading principle--the sheet anchor of American republicanism. Our Declaration of Independence says:

“We hold these truths to be self evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED.”

I have quoted so much at this time merely to show that according to our ancient faith, the just powers of governments are derived from the consent of the governed. Now the relation of masters and slaves is, PRO TANTO, a total violation of this principle. The master not only governs the slave without his consent; but he governs him by a set of rules altogether different from those which he prescribes for himself. Allow ALL the governed an equal voice in the government, and that, and that only is self-government.

Let it not be said I am contending for the establishment of political and social equality between the whites and blacks. I have already said the contrary. I am not now combating the argument of NECESSITY, arising from the fact that the blacks are already amongst us; but I am combating what is set up as MORAL argument for allowing them to be taken where they have never yet been--arguing against the EXTENSION of a bad thing, which where it already exists, we must of necessity, manage as we best can.

Not bad for a "racist of the first order".

118 posted on 12/24/2001 8:50:39 AM PST by Huck
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To: Leesylvanian
I never even heard any political controversy concerning the date of the invasion. Under the plans however, they needed a combination of tides and moon to pull it off and if they had missed the June date, they would have had to wait for another month to get the same combination. Keeping the plan and especially the destination secret from the Germans would have been difficult after several 100,000 men were all dressed and ready to go. If the Germans had moved their Armor divisions to Normandy --- well, history would have been different. That is why Eisenhower was anxious to move on June 6. Everything was set and he didn’t want to take the chance of exposing his plan if he had to hold off for another month. The key point is that an invasion of France was never considered to be a big secret. It was always in the cards and everyone knew it. The only question was when and where.

Merry Christmas to you too.

119 posted on 12/24/2001 9:00:22 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Huck
Great Stuff, Huck

Merry Christmas. :)

Walt

120 posted on 12/24/2001 9:04:05 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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