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To: Byron_the_Aussie
There can be no question that it has been a century of decline for Islam - from the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the creation of Israel, the defeat in the Six Day War, to the final cataclysmic acts of despair, in New York and in Jerusalem. Its resources have been pillaged, its leaders are impotent and the people powerless, or too apathetic, to influence them. Surely it must be asked: has Islamic civilisation ever reached a lower point?

Hey, Mr. Muslim, guess what? The HEIGHT of civilization is NOT controlling an empire, or making sure the Jews don't have a homeland. The height of civilization is founding families, engaging in commerce, praying to God, doing his will to the extent that you know his will, living in peace.

The very fact that this Muslim sees the existence of Israel and the fall of the Ottoman Empire and all these other events as blows to "Islam" shows that his version of Islam is an aggressive, political, violent ideology, intent on controlling territory and controlling people.

2 posted on 12/24/2001 11:57:59 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
The very fact that this Muslim sees the existence of Israel and the fall of the Ottoman Empire and all these other events as blows to "Islam" shows that his version of Islam is an aggressive, political, violent ideology, intent on controlling territory and controlling people.

Well Said.

10 posted on 12/24/2001 12:25:24 PM PST by Godel
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To: Arthur McGowan
"The very fact that this Muslim sees the existence of Israel and the fall of the Ottoman Empire and all these other events as blows to "Islam" shows that his version of Islam is an aggressive, political, violent ideology, intent on controlling territory and controlling people."

My feelings exactly. Is it reflective of a low-point for Islam that it's the fastest growing faith in my country as well as several others? Seems like more victicrat whining to me...

25 posted on 12/24/2001 3:29:31 PM PST by Frances_Marion
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To: Arthur McGowan
Exactly my thoughts. The author complains of anti-Muslim stereotypes, only to confirm those stereotypes. He believes in a terrorist, imperialist religion; he just gets mad, when "infidels" don't celebrate Islam, as well.
32 posted on 12/26/2001 7:15:23 AM PST by mrustow
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