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Archaeologists Find Celts in Unlikely Spot: Central Turkey (Ellas Go Bragh!?)
The New York Times ^
| December 25, 2001
| JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Posted on 12/25/2001 12:06:25 PM PST by Pericles
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To: Thinkin' Gal;LostTribe
Just checked out your individual home pages.WOW! Recommend All that would consider themselves "serious Bible students" do the same. A whole world of knowledge and understanding of what God's Word says awaits those who have "an open mind" and a burning desire for the truths hidden therein. Great job and God bless your efforts!
To: ValerieUSA
sorry to say no to you. Indo-Europeans and Semetic people have different facial skeleton compositions (language and DNA too) that do not at all support any biblical evidence of shared origins unless you go back to the theories of evelution and I am assuming that is a no-no.
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12/25/2001 10:34:41 PM PST
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Pericles
To: PoisedWoman
It wasn't called Turkey then.
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posted on
12/25/2001 10:38:58 PM PST
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Pericles
To: aristeides
I could understand why. The gladiator games and the other Roman blood sports were at their core human sacrifices and religous in origin and purpose. The Phonecians (a Semetic people not linked at all to the Gauls) also sacrificed humans to their gods as well. The Celts took to sacrificing Romans as offerings if I remember and that's what ticked the Romans off. If they sacrificed among themselves, especially using slaves or "volounteers" the Romans would have looked away most likely. Remember also that infanticide (mostly by exposure) was also wide spread at this time and considered an acceptable form of birth control.
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12/25/2001 10:47:43 PM PST
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Pericles
To: L`enn; laconas
Anthony Quinn, whose father was Irish It took an Irishman to play a Greek!! :)
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12/25/2001 10:50:58 PM PST
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Pericles
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To: Guthrum
I doubt you can link facial hair hair fashions to ethnic origins. Many ethnic groups were forced to assimilate by the regime of the Turks (Ottoman or Republic), and I am sure that some Gauls stayed behind in Turkey, I am also very sure that any that remained Christian migrated to Greece during the "population exchanges" between Greece and Turkey after WW1. Any Gaul left within these people would matter little to them and is of intrest only to ethno-historians.
By the way the Gauls were not large enough of a population to have any long term impact on any group. The Guals were settled in what became Galatia after the Greeks defeated them as an inducement to end their raids and at most they must have numbered 100,000 IMHO before they were incorporated within other peoples in the area.
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12/25/2001 11:43:40 PM PST
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Pericles
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To: Guthrum; ValerieUSA
A word to those that study the Bible, Old and New. The Galatia of St. Paul's time was the name the Romans gave to an administrative district that incorporated other areas not part of the old Galatia where few or no Galli lived. The new area was around 5 times (?) its original geographic size. For the Romans to do that it would mean that the ethnic make-up of Galatia was no longer much of a factor and that the people were well assimilated with those of their neighbors. An example would be if Rome ruled America and desiganated all the New England states as one administrative district to be known as Massachusetts. By the late Roman Empire (Christain pre-Islamic era) there was probably nothing much identifiable of the Celt in Galatia.
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12/26/2001 12:05:32 AM PST
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Pericles
To: laconas
and Circassians.
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12/26/2001 12:19:57 AM PST
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Pericles
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To: Pericles
In more than a decade of meticulous excavations, archaeologists were struck by the juxtaposition of Greek and Celtic customs in Gordion. Ruins of a workshop yielded figurines of Greek deities presumably used in household rituals. Nearby Will they say 2000 years from now that we had Britney Spears as goddess of fertility too? I hope not.
To: Guthrum
I know, My grandmother told me all about it. She was a victim of the death march of Christians/Greeks in the 20s and her life was saved by a compasionate and brave Circassian Muslim family that plucked her off the side of the road far from home. My grandmother had strawberry blondish red hair and blue eyes. Some made it out as a Christian and Greek. I am sure some stayed behind in Galatia as well.
I suspect you're fighting me on this because of the 'religion' thing. Not at all.
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12/26/2001 1:33:14 AM PST
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Pericles
To: riley1992
A little history for you.
To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Thanks. This looks very interesting. I'm going to bookmark it to read it later on tonight.
To: aristeides
As an Irish-American who praised earlier today on another forum the Spanish conquest of Mexico for its suppression of Aztec human sacrifice, let me say here that I applaud the suppression of this barbaric practice in Celtic lands, and thoroughly deplore the idiots who are now trying to resurrect Celtic paganism. BIG BUMP! While vacationing in Scotland a few years ago I was amazed at at how inordinately proud people were of their Celtic roots. Every gift shop had Celtic icons, symbols, etc. for sale. In the U.K., Christianity is going out and Pagansism is being rediscovered. It's a disgrace. Good riddance to the Pagan Aztecs and good riddance to the Pagan Celts!
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12/26/2001 3:11:43 AM PST
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arm958
To: blam
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To: Hrebeljanovic
However, you have to do more praying because it could be from the Balkans also, since Belgrade, the capitol of Yugoslavia, was first founded by Celts. Funny you should say that, my mother is full Croatian. I'm doomed...doomed....
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