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Allow me to clarify: BOTH groups are B.A.F.ers. Anyone who blames America for terrorism inflicted on America is a BAFhole

Ok. So now tell me how we get to justifying the terrorist attacks, from a simple criticism of US foreign policy. It seems to me that no one, except for terrorists, is saying that the US deserved the attack because of our mid east policy. I think they are merely saying that our policy puts us in their crosshairs. That is, we can either change our current policy, or continue the current policy with extra vigilence from now on. To me, they are just taking the path of least resistance. So call them lazy if you want. America haters, I think, is a little strong.

I think they are merely saying that our policy puts us in their crosshairs.

Guess what: Our existance puts us in their crosshairs. The fact we are prosperous puts us in their crosshairs. The fact we are (well, were) free puts us in their crosshairs. The fact we do not embrace Islam puts us in their crosshairs.

That is, we can either change our current policy, or continue the current policy with extra vigilence from now on. To me, they are just taking the path of least resistance. So call them lazy if you want.

I can agree with this. Lazy, and extremely short-sighted. Neville Chamberlain, watch out -- there's a new kid on the block.

America haters, I think, is a little strong.

Never called them that. I will, however, continue to call them Blame-America-First holes (BAFholes).

Ok. So now tell me how we get to justifying the terrorist attacks, from a simple criticism of US foreign policy. It seems to me that no one, except for terrorists, is saying that the US deserved the attack because of our mid east policy.

You are correct, but you must remember you are arguing with party-line Republicans, not conservatives. This thread is very typical. Most negative responses are from posters who did not even read the article.

You are also correct in that no one other than the terrorists are saying we "deserved" the attacks. Our foreign policy is one of the main reasons for the attacks, not just the fact that the terrorists are Islamic. There are many, many other rich, industrialized quasi-capitalistic countries who should be in their "crosshairs" as well, but nothing has happened to them.

Its very scary to see Americans being divided over this. But, its probably a godsend for the totalitarian government thats just getting reved up. I had a bad feeling that once GW became president, there would be some issue arise or event happen that would allow the "masses" to label any "conservative" who disagrees with the official government position as a "extremist wacko". I could have never envisioned this, though. Now you have liberals and conservatives "brought together" by lies and deception ready to put anyone who disagrees with the countries new direction in front of a military tribunal. This couldn't have worked any better if it was planned....