Posted on 12/26/2001 9:21:53 AM PST by Alouette
Ditto. Even though hitting the abuse button would have been appropriate on numerous occasions, I just let their hate ramble on. Dealing from hate hardly advances American interests. We need clear thinking and real information.
It figures you would have sympathy for the statement you quoted. To draw an analogy between the JDL and Bin Laden and his bunch is intellectually dishonest. This organization, the JDL, has for the most part exercised its activism in two principle respects:
(1) The most notoriety was gained in their position with respect to the Soviet intransigence on Jewish immigration. Oh gee, what a terrible anti-Western issue.
(2) Their actions with respect to neo-nazi groups.
The recent allegations with respect to Rubin and his co-accused, if true, are reprehensible and have, even before they've been convicted, engendered immediate condemnation by all aspects of the Jewish community. Something sorely lacking in the Islamic community in terms of Bin Laden and even more, the lack of Islamic condemnation of the Jihads occurring internationally - Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Algeria, south Philippines, etc. The use of this small group to bolster an argument against support for Israel just because of their existence is a gratuitous claim not worthy of acknowledgement except by those who need to find kernels to make mountains against Israel.
Huh!! Wonder how that happened?
You really have a way of twisting things. I said that some Jews in Detroit who felt the need to (figuratively) crawl on their hands and knees to Dearborn were snivelling leftists. I also said that you the Doc Lady have no right to speak in the name of Detroit Jewry. Don't put words in my mouth and don't misrepresent what I said. When you think somebody does that to you, you pitch a hissy fit.
Then 9/11 happened.
My opinion of Muslims did plummet because I bought a copy of the Holy Qur'an. It alone is the greatest piece of "anti Islamic propaganda" ever written. Good Muslims are commanded to "Fight the disbelievers who dwell near to you" (9:121). They also must "cut off all the fingertips" of their foes (8:12). There will always be disbelievers dwelling nearby until the whole world is Muslim (so many fingertips, so little time).
Did Zogby consider people like myself?
Islam is not just a run of the mill "religion" started by a run of the mill caravan thief; it is a doctrine that people would follow when they are intent on ruling the world.
Is your idea of a witty response? If so, you've failed miserably.
Another scatter-brained response. Thanks for nothing.
I think Rubin is an idiot and I think the JDL is a wannabee terrorist organization but too dumb and too timid to pull it off. I have never, at any time, said anything that could be construed as support of the JDL, on this or any other forum.
This is my official condemnation of the JDL! Bookmark this post!
Who are the people who thought that what the JDL was allegedly attempting to do was OK?
The only thing I find shocking is the lack of Arab support thru this crisis. They remain surprisingly unsympathetic on 911 while being loud about our mistreatment.
No, it was not. It was from a handful of self-appointed individuals (secular liberals) who wanted a photo op. It was not from the entire Jewish community.
Imagine that, they kill our people, hijack our airplanes, form terrorist cells in this country, advocate their violent theology from mosques around the world, declare repeatedly that the Jews and the United States are the targets of their anger......................
AND NOW WE DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT THEM AROUND ANYMORE? How uncivil of us 'ugly americans'!
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