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To: Logophile
You were also the one who cited bin Laden's grievances as reason to change our policies toward Israel.

Let's start over, since you seem to be confused. My position is really simple see if you can grasp it. The need for a change in policies was there before 9/11.

You are saying that now after 9/11 we should stick with the previous policies only because Osama doesn't want that. How more silly can it be?

As to why I posted this article, that's because, as I wrote, Israel-firsters were scared of people linking 9/11 and the support for Israel.

Say you have a friend who uses you, sets you up and then eggs you "you are my friend, aren't you gonna help me?" Is that really your friend?

169 posted on 12/26/2001 2:29:39 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
As to why I posted this article, that's because, as I wrote, Israel-firsters were scared of people linking 9/11 and the support for Israel.

Why would Israeli supporters be scared of an event that spoke for itself? We had a certain foreign poliy prior to 9/11, are you suggesting that our foreign policy is to be shaped by the demands of terrorists?

Say you have a friend who uses you, sets you up and then eggs you "you are my friend, aren't you gonna help me?" Is that really your friend?

How did Israel set us up? What's more, Israel is not saying "you are my friend, aren't you gonna help me", it's saying "you are my friend, aren't you going to let go of my arms and help me protect myself while I get beat on?"

173 posted on 12/26/2001 2:36:16 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: madrussian
Let's start over, since you seem to be confused. My position is really simple see if you can grasp it. The need for a change in policies was there before 9/11.

If you believe that the United States should change some of its policies regarding Israel, simply state what those policies are and why they should be changed. Quoting bin Laden simply confuses the issue, and leads people to the reasonable conclusion that you agree with him.

You are saying that now after 9/11 we should stick with the previous policies only because Osama doesn't want that. How more silly can it be?

Actually, I never said such a thing. I simply objected to the idea that we should change our policies to appease a vicious thug like bin Laden.

As to why I posted this article, that's because, as I wrote, Israel-firsters were scared of people linking 9/11 and the support for Israel.

I don't know about the Israel-firsters (whoever they may be), but I am less scared than disgusted by people (such as Bin Laden and you) who try to use support for Israel to justify terrorist attacks on my countrymen.

Say you have a friend who uses you, sets you up and then eggs you "you are my friend, aren't you gonna help me?" Is that really your friend?

So now we are supposed to believe that Israel somehow "set us up" for the attacks on 11 September?

179 posted on 12/26/2001 2:47:34 PM PST by Logophile
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