America First: Why we need to examine our insane Foreign policy

self | 12/29/2001 | Demidog

[Demidog]

I'm tired of being called an "Islam Firster."

I am an America Firster.

[Demidog]

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[riley1992]

Let me tell you how much I enjoyed reading your post before you get labeled all sorts of God awful things and/or this gets yanked.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Watch it. This post is not in PC form.

[Roscoe]

Flying passenger jets into the WTC seems like "insane Foreign policy" to me.

[JakeWyld]

Good Job Demidog!!!

In the bookmarks it goes. Finally I get to a thread before there is a 500 post flame war. :)

[AshleyMontagu]

I'm tired of being called an "Islam Firster." I am an America Firster.

Amen.

[Demidog]

Flying passenger jets into the WTC seems like "insane Foreign policy" to me.

I agree with this. And I mean that. Probably the only post you've ever made to me with which I can find no fault.

[anniegetyourgun]

So you like the American people, but hate the American people the American people elected through free elections? There are probably lots of other "great people" in other countries with different systems you might try.

[FractalSphere]

Wow! Very well thought out. Some minor disagreements, but not the subject of my post...
We need to realize that stopping terrorism isn't a military objective, but a social objective. ...and the tool we use is our foreign policy.

[College Repub]

There is *NOTHING* wrong with criticizing Israel. In fact, my best friend is a liberal who disagrees with Israeli policy with regard to dealing with the whole palestinian issue. He is not an antisemite or a Jew hater. When people get labeled an antisemite here it is usualy for spreading lies and untruths and having done so repeatedly on the given thread and others.
We Pro-Israelis have good memories and if we spot someone that will refuse to condemn palestinian suicide bombers in one thread, makes lies about the history of the conflict in another, and then in yet another quote material from stormfront we take note. If that same person says something very questionable in another thread, we might confront him on why he/she feels the way they do (with the implication that it's anti-Jewish in nature). And, I personaly take issue with being called an Israel firster. This implies that I do not love my country, or that I am more loyal to Israel than the US. That is simply NOT true. I am an American first, a Jew second, and not even an Israeli at all. On the other hand, the political issue that I care more about than anything else happens to be the conflict in the middle east. I am speaking here only for myself and no one else. However, I suspect that many others feel the same way. Hopefully this statement clears some things up. Have a nice rest of the day Demidog-

[Dane]

Just a quibble, but why do you Libertarians always lable your vanity posts, something they are not, in this case "Foreign affairs".

Your post should be posted under "your opinions". Everyone else does. Oops I forgot you are a Libertarian, and you think you are extra important.

Never mind.

[B1B_Lancer]

I have noticed near universal collective Borg-like thought control in the conservative movement and in this forum on issues like "we must attack Saddam" and of course "we must attack China".

I am afraid I might get deleted for saying this...but isn't Saddam are best reason to keep our forces in Saudi Arabia? I mean without Saddam, the Saudis and the other Islamic states would be hollering for us to leave. The Islamists would be causing chaos in Iraq and all over. Iraq, at the very least is a secular Arab state, who is always ready for war with its scared but "friendly" neighbors. I say keep Saddam in power to keep the Arab world in fear from both sides, us and Saddam.

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[sinkspur]

It is arguable for instance that John Wayne's death from cancer could be attributed to nuclear tests performed back in the 40's. Movie locations happened to be in the area where tests occurred. Many film industry professionals who worked on movies filmed in Nevada died from cancer including that great American we called "the Duke."

And, of course, you'll take your SWAG about Wayne and blame the American government for his death.

It is not arguable that John Wayne smoked four packs of filterless cigarettes a day for 45 years.

Occam's razor says that the Duke died as a result of tobacco use.

As for the rest of your rant, it is a rehash of your very first post on 9/11.

The bodies of your fellow citizens weren't even cold yet, and you were blaming the people they elected for their deaths.

. Sending young men and women across the globe to secure oil fields and preserve the "American way of life" is a sick project. I for one, am not willing to lose a single American for the cynical goal of sub-dollar-a-gallon fuel for my SUV.

This is the kind of crap that gets you labeled an American hater.

You're incorrigible. Hopefully, the next time Jim kicks your butt of the forum, you'll STAY OFF!

[Demidog]

So you like the American people, but hate the American people the American people elected through free elections?

Tell me how much you love Bill Clinton and I won't scoff at your logic here.

[Dane]

America is a great nation and is full of great people. Unfortunately its leaders have no respect for its people or its laws. Pointing this out is not showing hate for anything but the lawbreakers who do so.

Okay you have stated your position, so what is your solution? Oops I forgot, that isn't your department.

[Huck]

I I I I I I I I I I I I. It's all anout you, eh, Demidog?

[College Repub]

That might be why Bush Sr. decided not to get rid of Saddam (He was a former CIA director you know...he's not a dumbass).

[Roscoe]

[Flying passenger jets into the WTC seems like "insane Foreign policy" to me.]

I agree with this.

Not reflected in the screed.

[Joe Hadenuf]

So you like the American people, but hate the American people the American people elected through free elections?

Free elections? Free elections?!

Your joking, right? How about this free election?

The people of the great state of California held a free election several years ago and voted 3 to 1 in favor of proposition 187 which would have put a stop to much of the tax paid support of criminal illegal aliens. After we won the *free* election the federal government stepped in and burned our ballots and declared our election unconstitutional.

Our borders and immigration policies are a complete national disgrace, and now a total national security nightmare.