The Necessity of Fear

"How is someone "forced to or chose to unwisely" send billions of dollars and arms to terrorists? No one was twisting the CIA's arm to do this."

No one was twisting their arms because it was the RIGHT thing to do at the time!! You keep on acting IGNORANT of the Cold War, my FRiend...why?! Are you implying that "everybody did it" so we shouldn't go after Der SchleekMeister for his blatant crimes?! Or are you just trying to taint the historic accomplishments of REAL American Heroes like Ronald Wilson Reagan? Why do you feign STOOOPIDITY about the geopolitical necessities of winning the Cold War? I know you too well to believe you are unaware of reality...why do you reject it in your postings?!

"It is not just "unwise," it is wrong. "Anything if it's against the Russians" was the standard excuse for every Cold War immoral action, such as "intelligence sharing" with the PRC."

Winning the Cold War will go down as the greatest achievement of the 20th Century, Ms. Jade, and ultimately saved the lives of Millions who wouldda rather DIED than live under the ChokeHold of Leftist/Communist/Socialist/Totalitarian/Collectivist/Fascist/Lib'ral/DemonRAT Tyranny!! Are you arguing otherwise, Ms. Jade? How 'bout you, RATcat?

MUD

"Comments" you want, eh?

I don't know what to say 'bout this ratcat character, Slim.
The individual's written me a time or two in the past; & then when I've taken my time to respond?
I recieve zip, nada, nyet in the way of feedback, comment, flame...nothing.
Well, I dunno if *Hit-n-Run* is an appropoe' term here; but it sure the hell has that feel.
Ya know?

If you've ever read this individual's musings in the past; as have I?
What you find is an angry, pissed-off person; ~much like the Brigadier's used to be?
Someone whose quick to attack, always quick to interject scads of questions, never present an answer or submits solutions, understands (apparently) the fundamnetals of the Republic yet insinuates it's their way or no way?
And you might just as well forget compromise with this one, too; judging by their interaction(s) with the others...when s/he does decide they're going to respond?

Trying to pin this person down to anything whatsoever *positive* seems quite futile too, I might add; and you know what a pessimist I can be, too. :o)

Now, by reading what this individual's had to say to you?
I can't say I'm surprised; really, I truely cannot.
It's the only consistent thing about this one so far, in fact.
I dunno; go figure.

...I'll reserve comment for now; 'till this person further reveals their true intent, themself, & using their own words.

"I am not foolish enough to believe that any elected official "walks on water"."

Who is?! Dubyuh is no "savior," but you--and others--are going out of yer way to make the case that he is but a continuation of Der SchleekMeister!! That's HOGWASH and YOU know it damn well, don't you?! So why do you persist? Methinks it is because you fear attaining Justice for Clinton...prove me wrong!!

"I am a constitutionalist. If they don't protect and defend the constitution in their deeds, then I don't vote for them."

Fair 'nuff.

"And I don't spend my time making remarks about other people on FR - as I believe that I cannot possibly form an accurate opinion of someone based on their few posted comments."

Obviously, the opinion Landru formed was not based upon a "few posted comments." Remember the medium y'all are working in...it is extremely easy to link folks to their Leftist comments via FReepMail and then bust yer balls for them when we feel like it!! Do you realy believe we are so IGNORANT of Reality to allow yer unsubstantiated slanders go without refutation?! If so, you really are unusually NAIVE!!

"Without actually talking to someone at length, I do not believe that I can form even a semi-accurate opinion of them."

With more experience FReepin', you will overcome this lack of intellectual clarity.

"So why are you and Mudboy wasting your time making remarks about me?"

I'm not wasting time talkin' 'bout YOU, just the inane, unsubstantiated drivel that has been posted today by some FReeper named "RATcat"!!

"Unless, of course, your sole purpose in life is to protect G.W. and his corrupt family and their corrupt manipulations of the world scene - all designed to end the sovereignty of the United States and to eliminate the safeguards of the U.S. constitution."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA...yeah, that must be it!!

"Whenever Mr. G.W. implements a policy or a plan which takes away our freedom or which endangers our sovereignty, then I won't hesitate to point that out. And you have a problem with this?"

No problem whatsoever...in fact, you and I have probably been on the BushWhackin' side of the ledger more often than not when his efforts have strayedtoo far to the Left. However, I will fight YOU and yer kind just as vociferously when you allow yer unsubstantiated BILE to drool from yer keyboard!! Learn to differentiate the Truth from Leftist Spin and yer Life's Philosophy wil make soooo much more sense.

MUD

BTW, RATcat, please answer me this one simple question...Do YOU agree that Osama bil Clinton was the Most Vile POTUS in the History of the United States and we should make every conceivable effort to bring him and his LeftWing Collaborators to Justice for his plethora of Crimes against this Country and Humanity as a Whole?!

"I think that we all agree that Clintigula was and is a criminal (on numerous counts) and that he ought to be held to account for his crimes."

Good to hear...in the rush to make a case that Dubyuh is not worthy of our support any more than Clinton, I fear that some of my FRiends on the Right will overlook our Constitutional Duty to hold the last Administration accountable for its crimes.

"You need to ask your good buddy G.W. why he is not bringing charges against the Clintons and why he is covering for them by withholding numerous documents subpoenaed by the Congress which would implicate the Clintons in numerous crimes - and perhaps destroy Mrs. Clinton's future political career."

Have been and will continue to do so, thankyouverymuch!!

"Yes, he does have his reasons - and no, he is never going to bring the Clintons to justice - for anything."

Balderdash, dude/ma'am!!

"Secondly, I have no objections to the actions of the U.S. government to pay and support the Afghanis and Muhajadeen in fighting the Soviets who had invaded Afghanistan. However, the Muhajadeen and al Qaeda were still on the CIA payroll in June of 2001 in the Balkans."

Once again, you spew disinformation!! It is true that we still had spies within the al Qaeda Network as late as the Spring of this year, but that is far from that and the Mujahadeen being "on the CIA payroll"!! International espionage is a dirty business...don't let yerself get confused by the seeming irregularities.

"At that time, they were no longer fighting communism, they were being used to destabilize the governments of Serbia, Macedonia, etc."

Evidence, please, that US CIA Agents were being used to destabilize the governments of Serbia, Macedonia, etc. during the Bush Administration!! Anybody can allege, RATcat...bring some evidence to the table next time!!

"So what started out as a "justifiable" program to arm and train "freedom fighters" has long since changed into something quite different - something very ugly and something very criminal. And now, those very same organizations (which we trained and armed and are still training and arming) are committing terrorists acts all over the world - against the U.S. and Israelies. No, the mainstream press of the U.S. isn't going to talk about it on the 6:00 news. If you want the truth, then you have to go to the foreign press. However, I'll give you a clue. G.W. issued an executive order in June, 2001 which ordered the defunding of about 20 of the al Qaeda terrorists operating in the Balkans."

LOL...you slam Dubyuh for funding these lowlifes...then you slam himn for de-funding them...do you maybe understand my belief that you ain't lookin' to improve things as much as you are lookin' to muddy the waters?!

"It seems that most of them were then being funded by the UN or NATO. And perhaps G.W. saw some potential problems with declaring war on the terrorists - when some were still on the CIA payroll."

Yeah...maybe that's it!! LOL...SHEEEESH!!

"Did we win the cold war? Our purpose in the cold war was to stop the spread of communism/socialism. Our purpose was to preserve freedom not only for ourselves but for other nations being encroached upon by the USSR. Well somewhere along the line, we failed to recognize that our elected officials started taking away our own freedoms and implementing more and more socialist programs. Maybe the "cold war" was just another distraction - like the "war on drugs" and the "war on terrorism". So while we were fighting the "cold war", we were losing our own constitutional rights and our States were losing States' Rights - as the federal government unconstitutionally took control of our schools, our health care, our private property, our churches and our law enforcement."

I couldn't agree with you more on this last statement...but everybody ain't yer Enemy, RATcat!! I will agree to remain vigilant about overseeing Dubyuh if you will agree to be open to the possibility that maybe he ain't a card-carryin' Bilderrburger. Actually, even if you don't agree to that openness, I will remain vigilant about overseeing Dubyuh, but you get the point.

FReegards and G'Night...MUD

Well.
Whadda ya know.
Seems ya got inspired enough to respond this time 'round, eh? ;^)
It's amazing what a kick in the shins will get'cha.
From my POV?
It's just so-much easier hearing you speak for yourself; than for one to have to form an opinion (of you) based upon your silence.

In any event & for the record; I've no desire to argue and/or fight you, 'cat.
There's plenty of heads needing knocking, alright; & plenty to go 'round, too.
~Later.

Instead & for now?
We'd be better served finding some way, some common-ground between all of us on the Right; Libertarian, Constitutionalist, 'Pubby -- MoonMen ~if they love this nation, believe in the rule of Law!
Whereby we all might come together for the express purpose of fighting what's obviously the formidable enemy of a (seemingly) unfied Left?

The Left represents dangers to all of the Right; across the entire spectrum, as you well know.

What you don't (appear) to understand, is that not one of the constituent names of these troublemaking Leftist SOBs is (right now), "Bush."

...nor is that enemy you, Mud, or I, btw.

"...here are some links concerning G.W.'s refusal to bring Clinton and others to justice. G.W. has turned out to be a real disappointment."

Too bad you couldn't get yer boy Algore elected, right? Then everything would be just hunky-dory!!

"So do yourself a favor and get over any hope that G.W. is going to do the "right thing" concerning the Clintons."

It's asinine statements like this that lend credence to those who describe you as a gutless RINO, my FRiend. I'll never "get over" Clinton's Corruption and for you to be so adamant in making that case just proves that you simply don't have the Moral Gravitas to assist in the effort. Whatever...enjoy yer stay in yer cynical "Woe is Me" Dreamland, it's too depressing a place for me to ever visit again!!

"It isn't going to happen..."

Says you and those--like you--who would rather surrender meekly than fight the good fight. Justify yer Meekness however you want in yer own mind, but cease and desist yer efforts to attract me to yer feeble fecklessness...MUD

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