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To: Billy_bob_bob
There are tactical reasons for referring to the Nazis. It helps conservatives get the attention of liberals. A lot of liberals still refuse to think there was anything wrong with the Soviet Union, but everyone agrees that Hitler was a villain.

The ironic point is that the ACLU used to defend individual "liberties." They still do, to some extent, but they have been sadly diverted to issues like "abortion rights," pornography, and sexual perversion, and when these pet issues conflict with basic freedoms, they sometimes come down against freedom--Right-to-Life counseling being a typical issue of this kind. On an issue like National ID, however, conservatives could and should ally themselves with liberals on preserving our basic constitutional rights. After all, the politicians who would like to impose these controls also form strange alliances, such as the one that threatens between Ashcroft and Ellison.

10 posted on 01/01/2002 9:39:30 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
"A lot of liberals still refuse to think there was anything wrong with the Soviet Union, but everyone agrees that Hitler was a villain."

Very true, and very sad. The fact is that the Soviet Union was so exhausted and wretched by the end that it was incapable of producing a pen that actually worked for the purposes of signing itself out of existence. When Gorbachev went to publicly sign the document that would end the Soviet Union, he had a ceremonial pen that had been produced specifically for this task. When Gorbachev went to use this ceremonial pen, it didn't work. Nobody had thought to actually check to see if the pen worked. Typical Soviet efficiency. A reporter from CNN had to hand Gorbachev a ninteen cent Bic pen, that actually worked, and Gorbachev used that pen to sign the instrument that ended the existence of the Soviet Union.

My question still stands, however. What was the official policy of the Soviet Union regarding ID? Did they have a national ID? How was it handled? How did it impact the daily life of the average Russian or Ukrainian? Is the new "National ID" being proposed similar to what the Soviets had? How similar, or how different? I'm really curious here, does anyone have the facts handy?

14 posted on 01/01/2002 9:51:21 AM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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