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OK so since when do Senators get to arbitrarily pick out a number between 51 and 100 and basically choke your right to representation with it.
1 posted on 01/01/2002 6:08:58 PM PST by space-c (gjyoung@cfl.rr.com)
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To: space-c
Since when? Since Clinton was (is still?) in office.....
2 posted on 01/01/2002 6:13:41 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: space-c
The R's need to grow a pair and force these fillibusters to take place. That way we can see the Dems BEING obstructionist instead of hearing the charge from R's. Much more effective for TV coverage.

Hope they start soon. Don't they have a parlimentarian among them. Maybe they should hire Newt to consult, I'm sure he could bone up on the Senate rules and be an expert in no time. He took this crap on when he was minority leader, as it infuriated him, and changed a lot of it when he had the chance as Speaker.

3 posted on 01/01/2002 6:14:40 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: space-c
This makes it look like Daschle no longer has a working majority on key issues. I suppose he's trying to avoid relying on filibusters, which would really look bad considering he is the majority leader.

Surely the Republicans could counter this by listing many important bills that have been passed in the past with less than 60 votes.

4 posted on 01/01/2002 6:22:07 PM PST by AzJohn
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To: space-c
The Republicrats have effectively ended any right we (the people) have to fair representation and our Constitutional rights.

To paraphrase Steve Martin, 'die you scum sucking globalist pigs...'

5 posted on 01/01/2002 6:22:23 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: space-c
This article really makes me want to telephone Daschle's office and tell him to "keep on keepin' on, for the Republicans are going to nail you guys in 2002". I do believe Americans are in no mood for this partisan B.S., and his tactics are, when all is said and done, a shot on the foot for dems.

Here's another thread related to my *rant*, Re-Taking the Senate: Hugh Hewitt has a plan for Republican victory in 2002.

6 posted on 01/01/2002 6:23:26 PM PST by calypgin
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To: space-c
I'm not sure this belongs in Breaking News but, whether it belongs or not, PLEASE don't change the title of an article when you post.
7 posted on 01/01/2002 6:25:34 PM PST by Jean S
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To: space-c
WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?
13 posted on 01/01/2002 6:37:36 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: space-c
Here's an article that really nails the Dems in the chops:

Courting Trouble

BY THOMAS L. JIPPING THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Wednesday, May 09, 2001, at A17

In making his first judicial nominations this week, President Bush is following the advice of his harshest left-wing critics. Writing in the July 16, 1999, San Francisco Chronicle, Nan Aron of the leftist Alliance for Justice insisted that the president "has a duty to fill judicial vacancies and appoint jurists who share his views." Mr. Bush is doing just that.

Ms. Aron, her leftist friends and Senate Democrat allies will no doubt spin some yarn about how that advice applies only to Democrat presidents nominating activist judges. As the judicial selection process normally gets under way, those folks are indeed doing a whole lot of squirming and shape-shifting. Here are some recent examples.

For the second time since June 1994, judicial vacancies are in the triple digits. Democrats and their leftist allies once decried far lower vacancy levels. In March 1998, Sen Dick Durbin called 84 vacancies "a nationwide crisis" and in August 1999, President Clinton called 65 vacancies "a mounting vacancy crisis." Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle said in March 2000 that 75 vacancies was "a dire shortage" of judges.

In September 1995, the Alliance for Justice´s legislative counsel said in an Insight magazine interview that with just 52 vacancies the judicial system could barely function. Total vacancies are nearly 100 percent higher today.

And Ms. Aron herself, according to the October 1998 ABA Journal, was urging the Senate to "confirm more judges" when there were just 69 vacancies. Last July, Sen. Patrick Leahy said that 21 appeals court vacancies meant the judiciary´s "ability to administer justice for the American people is being hurt." Appeals court vacancies are 50 percent higher today.

Mr. Bush´s opponents have changed their tune on other issues. Senate Democrats are trying to extort an absolute veto by individual senators to nominations in their states. Such an extreme partisan policy has not existed for decades, changed by none other than Sen. Ted Kennedy when he chaired the Judiciary Committee and followed by Sen. Joseph Biden during the 1980s. In a letter to President George Bush dated June 6, 1989, Mr. Biden wrote that opposition by a home state senator "will not preclude consideration of that nominee unless the administration has not consulted with both home state senators prior to submitting the nomination to the Senate." In October 1993

Mr. Biden repeated in a Senate floor speech that consultation "does not allow for, even on a judicial nominee, for a single senator to have a veto power." These clear words have now become politically inconvenient, so they are changing the definitions. Under President Clinton, "consult" did not mean a veto; under President Bush, it does.

Here´s another about-face. Back in 1999, some Senate Republicans tried to block all Clinton judicial nominees because the president abused his authority to make so-called recess appointments. Democrats objected, Roll Call quoting Mr. Leahy saying in January 2000 that "The target here may be the president, but the hostage is the criminal and civil justice system."

Under Mr. Clinton, blocking judicial nominees even over a fundamental constitutional principle was wrong; under President Bush, blocking them even over a partisan perk is fine.

Another Democrat about-face is on using ideological litmus tests to reject nominees failing to pledge they will rule correctly on certain issues. On July 10, 1997, Mr. Leahy said he, "would like to believe that . . . no senator is imposing an ideological litmus test on judicial nominations." On March 1, 1998, he said: "Partisan and narrow ideological efforts to impose political litmus tests on judicial nominees and to shut down the judiciary must stop." And on Oct. 14, 1999, he said, "you cannot have a small clique decide they want to know exactly how judges are going to rule before they go on the bench, or they´re not going to confirm them."

The Lawyers´ Committee for Civil Rights warned in September 1997 that ideological litmus tests "threaten the vital independence of the judiciary and politicize the process for nominating and confirming federal judges."

And the Brennan Center for Justice agreed in an October 1999 report that litmus tests are "a selection method that undermines the independence of our third branch of government." Yet Democrats used the litmus test on Attorney General John Ashcroft and, following his confirmation, pledged to use it even more aggressively on judicial nominees.

So let´s recap here. When Democrats ran the Senate, they denied home state senators a veto on nominations; with Republicans in charge, they demand the veto. When vacancies were lower under a Democrat president, Senate Democrats and left-wing groups urged faster confirmations; with higher vacancies under a Republican president, they want slower confirmations. With a fundamental constitutional principle at stake, they said blocking judicial nominees threatened the legal system; with a partisan perk at hand, they vow to stop everything. As long as a Democrat was nominating judges, litmus tests were taboo; with a Republican president sending up nominees, they are standard operating procedure.

Senate Democrats and their leftist allies will pursue the very course they once condemned, best described in the Alliance for Justice´s 2000 annual report (the names have been changed to protect the hypocritical): " intransigence and continued attempts to prevent the administration from filling the federal judicial vacancies left many courts with serious case backlogs and frustrated President ´s goal of leaving behind a fully staffed judiciary."

President Bush is following the advice of his left-wing critics; perhaps they should practice what they preach.

Thomas L. Jipping, J.D., is director of the Free Congress Foundation´s Judicial Selection Monitoring Project.

14 posted on 01/01/2002 6:39:32 PM PST by Henchster
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To: space-c
Dasshole is determined to play politics with the business of the people.
15 posted on 01/01/2002 6:40:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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Daschle's just showing his true http://www.dsausa.org/ colors!!!!
16 posted on 01/01/2002 6:41:25 PM PST by Defender2
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To: space-c
I wonder if Dubya has the balls to follow through and get tough. I doubt it.
17 posted on 01/01/2002 6:46:20 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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Article 1 section 5 of the U.S Constitution allows the Senate to set it’s own rules for proceeding. The Sixty-vote rule to overcome a filibuster has been a fixture of the Senate as long as I can remember. It has been customary for the Majority leader to refrain from bring up bills that have no chance of overcoming a filibuster. Why waste time to debate a bill that will never reach a vote? There are rules for forcing the Majority leaders hand but what Dashle is doing is no different than what all Majority leaders do.
18 posted on 01/01/2002 6:46:48 PM PST by Free the USA
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If the Midget Dashole wants a fillibuster ... FINE .. BRING IT ON ..

I myself would like to know EXACTLY who is against working for the people .. I want it on the books for ALL to see what kind of slim buckets these LOSERS really are

Gee they sure didn't seem to have a problem in Voting themself a payraise ..

20 posted on 01/01/2002 6:56:34 PM PST by Mo1
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Does South Dakota have anything worth boycotting until they vote this pint-sized snake out of office?
23 posted on 01/01/2002 7:00:03 PM PST by GussiedUp
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The Founding Fathers, in their wisdom, chose to assure that there would be ample support for controversial measures before they passed," Daschle said.

Hey, Tommy. News Alert!! The Founders in their infintive wisdom also protected Senators from pandering to the public by requiring them to be elected by state houses in trying to prevent the popularity contests we have today. The Founders also expected the states to take on many of the responsibilities the national government has done. The Founders also expected this nation to be somewhat moral, if not religious as well. But you progressive idiots have destroyed that document written 214 years ago trying to establish the Almighty STATE. Do you think you could just shut up for once and allow the document to speak for itself. Dern politician!! No wonder Franklin didn't want to pay them, now we have career idiots

24 posted on 01/01/2002 7:03:38 PM PST by billbears
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Hopefully, the president will find room on his (very full) plate for politcal leadership. The president should be using the bully pulpit to denounce Dashole's arrogant obstruction and balance the media's nonstop defense of everything Dashole.

IMHO we're at the point where Bush---in front of the cameras---needs to remind Dashole who is president. And, an effective wake-up call for the Senate's plurality leader would be recess appointments....lots and lots of them.

But, unfortunately, I'm not going to bet the farm on this happening.

27 posted on 01/01/2002 7:07:47 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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All the Republicans have to do is oppose him for a change. He can't get away with this unprecedented B.S. if other party bothers to call him on it.
33 posted on 01/01/2002 7:25:35 PM PST by dr_who
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No more "Puff-Daschle.

Now it should be Senator Tom B. Draggle, or

Tom Draga$$le.

35 posted on 01/01/2002 7:30:24 PM PST by cookcounty
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Don't worry, the Republicans in the Senate, led by big, bad Trent Lott, will deal effectively with Daschle. < /sarcasm >
36 posted on 01/01/2002 7:32:56 PM PST by JeepInMazar
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You know, if he likes the number 60 so much how about this, introduce a constitutional amendment that REQUIRES a 60% majority of each house of congress on any law that increases taxes. After all if it can't muster 60% of the votes it must be controversial right?
40 posted on 01/01/2002 7:41:01 PM PST by Kozak
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